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Old 10-10-2014, 11:53   #16
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"Ebola virus disease is not an airborne infection. Airborne spread among humans implies inhalation of an infectious dose of virus from a suspended cloud of small dried droplets. This mode of transmission has not been observed during extensive studies of the Ebola virus over several decades."

"Theoretically, wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently, could transmit the virus – over a short distance – to another nearby person. ... On the contrary, good quality studies from previous Ebola outbreaks show that all cases were infected by direct close contact with symptomatic patients."



When you say, categorically (as you did) "Ebola is airborne," it is you who are guilty of spreading misinformation.
While not technically Ebola Zaire, ebolavirus reston is believed to be airborne, although humans who have contracted it have remained asymptomatic.

My thesis professor used to always say, "If it did happen then it can happen." Personally, I'm more concerned about HepC and TB, both of which I see on a regular basis at the salt mine.

But just wait and see what happens to the prehospital and ED staffing if this thing really gets going. I may get enough OT hours to buy a new catamaran...

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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss

I was taken for loop. THought H1N1 or H1N5 would have propogated more than Ebola. Drug resistant TB is a real concern. √

Bottom line is that we can't do anything about this anyway. WHO and CDC are speculating a wet dream. David Nabarro said it best: "We are f**ked. That's my professional opinion. Ebola cases are doubling every 3 weeks. We don't know how this will mutate. We need response 20x faster or we are all dead. Dead, I say. oh…is this mike on?"
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wow nice graph Delancey!
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Not a lot of action until the industrial revolution. Things really start to take off once we started pumping oil out of the ground.

You might be interested in reading a couple comments by newt here
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Thanks Delancey. That was VERY sobering!
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Looks very well considering.
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Boatman you better keep that rising from the dead stuff off the air...time to start a new religion.
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"The US government is not even trying to prevent the spread of Ebola to the US."
Not quite. Yesterday the CDC announced that five major international airports in the US will be using thermometers to check all passengers inbound from the hot zone, and asking them to self-monitor for a month afterwards in any case.
Not a quarantine but a slow first step probably intended to not cause panic, which would be a bigger problem than an epidemic.

Among the odd tidbits that contradict "only from direct contact" are an advisory the ebola can survive for at least six hours outside the body. You spit on the sidewalk, four hours later someone walks in it, now they've got viable ebola in their shoes. And if has been confirmed that you can get ebola from handling the dead, who by definition are already dead, so the virus is obviously surviving "outside" of a live host.

I'm not sure where the fog of a sneeze becomes radically different from some spittle or a glob or spit but it would seem the "aerosol" question is just a matter of degree. And two? weeks ago, it was announced that even in a cured or recovered victim, the virus was alive and well in the survivor's semen for at least six weeks. So, cured isn't safe either.

As long as George Romero isn't filming on your street, you're probably safe. Right?
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