Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 03-09-2017, 08:42   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 9
Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

I am considering liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA. Anybody have experience for this area?

Thanks Teun
__________________

__________________
TDB1227 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2017, 09:25   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Nice, France
Boat: Hunter Marine 38
Posts: 281
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

No personel experience, but I have read of many circumnavigators who visited the island, only to never continu their trip and stayed there for years.
Seems to me you choose the right place. How is your French?
__________________

__________________
sailormed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2017, 09:47   #3
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Florida
Boat: Lagoon 410
Posts: 67
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Steer clear of Captain Leadbottom.
__________________
InTheDish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2017, 15:27   #4
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 10,682
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

There are a few New Caledonians who live aboard all year long. The climate is nice. However, US citizens have to apply for a visa for there, and it usually is issued for 3 months. There is a lengthy visa extension procedure which will get you some more, but they want you to be gone before cyclone season.

I have been told, but never confirmed, that if you arrive after the beginning of cyclone season, you will be allowed to stay there for it.

Living aboard while you are there on a visa is not a problem, and imo, it is a geographically pretty place. Too bad about the ciguatera, though.



Ann
__________________
Ann, with Jim, aboard US s/v Insatiable II, in Oz, very long term cruisers
JPA Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2017, 15:27   #5
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,454
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Do you mean as a permanent resident, or as a transient? If permanent, how will you deal with visa requirements. If transient, no problems at all. And there are plenty of locals living aboard in and around Noumea.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 00:53   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: On Evenstar
Boat: Hallberg-Rassy 53
Posts: 125
Send a message via Skype™ to Evenstar
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Quote:
Originally Posted by JPA Cate View Post
There are a few New Caledonians who live aboard all year long. The climate is nice. However, US citizens have to apply for a visa for there, and it usually is issued for 3 months. There is a lengthy visa extension procedure which will get you some more, but they want you to be gone before cyclone season.

I have been told, but never confirmed, that if you arrive after the beginning of cyclone season, you will be allowed to stay there for it.

Living aboard while you are there on a visa is not a problem, and imo, it is a geographically pretty place. Too bad about the ciguatera, though.



Ann
When we were there, we were told there is almost no way to get more than 90 days on a U.S. passport, and even then the limit is 90 days in a year, so it's not like you can leave and come back a month later.

I think with an EU passport though, you can pretty much stay as long as you like.

Lovely place, one of our favorites so far.
__________________
S/V Evenstar - Hallberg-Rassy 53 Hull #34
Our travel blog, or "Embarrassing things I do to myself around boats"...
Evenstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 06:40   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 9
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Quote:
Originally Posted by JPA Cate View Post
There are a few New Caledonians who live aboard all year long. The climate is nice. However, US citizens have to apply for a visa for there, and it usually is issued for 3 months. There is a lengthy visa extension procedure which will get you some more, but they want you to be gone before cyclone season.

I have been told, but never confirmed, that if you arrive after the beginning of cyclone season, you will be allowed to stay there for it.

Living aboard while you are there on a visa is not a problem, and imo, it is a geographically pretty place. Too bad about the ciguatera, though.



Ann
I am USA resident but hold EU passport so that should not be a problem.

The "ciguatera" has me alarmed as I love (raw) fish; checking on this I realize the same applies for Northern Australia.

Teun
__________________
TDB1227 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 15:00   #8
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,454
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDB1227 View Post
I am USA resident but hold EU passport so that should not be a problem.

The "ciguatera" has me alarmed as I love (raw) fish; checking on this I realize the same applies for Northern Australia.

Teun
FWIW, Ann and I have had three ciguaterra events in New Caledonia. It is rampant there, and we no longer eat local fish when cruising in New Cal... or any other tropical venues. A serious problem in our opinion, and for us, with a high loading dose, potentially life threatening.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 17:28   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: French Polynesia
Boat: Allied 39
Posts: 470
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate View Post
FWIW, Ann and I have had three ciguaterra events in New Caledonia. It is rampant there, and we no longer eat local fish when cruising in New Cal... or any other tropical venues. A serious problem in our opinion, and for us, with a high loading dose, potentially life threatening.



Jim


Jim and Anne

I agree that ciguatera is a terrible type of toxin since you can never get rid of it. So many folks coming down to the SP from Mexico, CA that were unaware of it that Linda did a detailed write up on it.

For those that have heard about Ciguatera but want a summary of the risks and lack of treatment have a look at our website jacarandajourney.com under "Other Good Stuff". We also have chosen not to eat the local reef fish.

Safe sailing

Chuck
Jacaranda
__________________
www.jacarandajourney.com
chouliha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 17:45   #10
Senior Cruiser
 
maxingout's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Pierce, Phoenix
Boat: Privilege 39 Catamaran, Exit Only
Posts: 2,606
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

New Caledonia is one of my favorite destinations, but the longest we have been able to stay is three months at a time.

I don't know that I would like to be in New Caledonia during cyclone season.

The closest I have come to ever losing my boat was in a tropical storm while I was anchored in Prony Bay. My sixty pound CQR style anchor dragged and I had to run both engines to keep from being blown up on shore. It was one of the longest nights I have spent on board. Nine inches of rain fell that night nearly filling the dingy with water on the davits.

I also was not happy with the anchorages in the Isle of Pines. Poor holding with our CQR. Now that I am using a seventy pound Beugel anchor, I would like to give New Caledonia another try to see how well it would hold in Prony Bay and the Isle of Pines.

I never found what I considered to be a good hurricane hole in New Caledonia.
__________________
Dave -Sailing Vessel Exit Only

http://SailingUNI.com
http://maxingout.com
http://PositiveThinkingSailor.com
maxingout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 18:17   #11
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 10,682
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Quote:
I never found what I considered to be a good hurricane hole in New Caledonia.
Dave,

Take a look at Boat Passage, in the NW of Grand Terre; B. de Carenage in B. de Prony, against the south side mangroves; and friends have cycloned in Canala, too. I did not think Canala looked all that secure. Also, there is a spot before you get to the waterfall up the cut from Goro lighthouse where they have gone. One other they have used, is the mangrove river at Pt. La Guerre. Good depths, and good cuts in the mangroves.


Ann
__________________
Ann, with Jim, aboard US s/v Insatiable II, in Oz, very long term cruisers
JPA Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 20:22   #12
Senior Cruiser
 
maxingout's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Pierce, Phoenix
Boat: Privilege 39 Catamaran, Exit Only
Posts: 2,606
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

We were in Baie De Carenage in Prony Bay where we had the problem. I was surprised how much difficulty we were experiencing in such a protected location. I think it was a case of too much wind for the 60 pound CQR because there were no significant waves to create additional challenges. Our catamaran has a fair amount of windage, and after that episode I was done with the CQR. We met some German and South African cruisers using Beugel anchors, and they were doing fine wherever they anchored. They even volunteered to dive down on our anchor to see why it was not setting in a secure fashion. Their anchors held like superglue in the same location.

I always back down in reverse with full throttle to make sure the anchor is secure set. I want to do New Caledonia again with our seventy pound Beugel.
__________________
Dave -Sailing Vessel Exit Only

http://SailingUNI.com
http://maxingout.com
http://PositiveThinkingSailor.com
maxingout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 21:12   #13
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 10,682
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Yes, we have depth issues with getting into P. Laguerre or Boat Passage, at 2.2m.

About your CQR, had the hole where it pivots opened at all? We've friends who still use a CQR, and had to have that repaired--they found themselves dragging in places they'd never dragged before. After repair, all was well again. In that case, the pivot hole had become somewhat oval in shape, not round.

Ann
__________________
Ann, with Jim, aboard US s/v Insatiable II, in Oz, very long term cruisers
JPA Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 21:20   #14
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,454
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

Quote:
Originally Posted by maxingout View Post
We were in Baie De Carenage in Prony Bay where we had the problem. I was surprised how much difficulty we were experiencing in such a protected location. I think it was a case of too much wind for the 60 pound CQR because there were no significant waves to create additional challenges. Our catamaran has a fair amount of windage, and after that episode I was done with the CQR. We met some German and South African cruisers using Beugel anchors, and they were doing fine wherever they anchored. They even volunteered to dive down on our anchor to see why it was not setting in a secure fashion. Their anchors held like superglue in the same location.

I always back down in reverse with full throttle to make sure the anchor is secure set. I want to do New Caledonia again with our seventy pound Beugel.
Hi Dave,

IMO the very best cyclone hole in New Cal is the mangrove river in La Guerre. With your shallow draft entry should be easy, and you can get quite a way up, past several big bends and tie to substantial mangrove trees. The bar at the entry is really marginal for our 2.2 meters draught, but that's where I'd try to get if forced to sit out a cyclone there. No development for miles, so far less worry about flying tin roofs or even coconuts.

We have several friends who live there fulll time, and who have boats. Their practice is to stay put in their marina berths, and that worked well during Erika, but she was a pussycat compared to Irma. I don't think any shelter is guaranteed for storms like that!

Good to hear that you are gonna come this way again... looking forward to crossing paths once more.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2017, 21:40   #15
Senior Cruiser
 
maxingout's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Pierce, Phoenix
Boat: Privilege 39 Catamaran, Exit Only
Posts: 2,606
Re: Liveaboard in NEW CALEDONIA

The pivot hole definitely had enlarged.
__________________

__________________
Dave -Sailing Vessel Exit Only

http://SailingUNI.com
http://maxingout.com
http://PositiveThinkingSailor.com
maxingout is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cal, liveaboard, New Caledonia

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Caledonia or New Hebrides ? bdurham Pacific & South China Sea 5 02-12-2011 01:11
New Caledonia -> Aus : Uncharted Reef BigAl.NZ Pacific & South China Sea 7 21-10-2010 22:22
Satellite Phone with Data Transfer from Australia to New Caledonia shelleyof Marine Electronics 0 13-03-2009 21:48
New to Forum - Almost Made it Around - Ended Up in New Caledonia kjell72 Meets & Greets 3 07-04-2008 22:24
East Coast Australia to New Caledonia DtM Multihull Sailboats 5 18-11-2006 00:34



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 16:34.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.