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Old 27-07-2011, 18:16   #1
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Good Deal for a Liveaboard Marina ?

I am thinking about living at this marina: Philadelphia Marine Center

Excluding any consideration of a possible bad environment (which is yet to be known), what are your thoughts?

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We provide all our Marina Customers with the following……

  • Discount Ship's Store (Land 'N' Sea Dealer)
  • 24-hour Security (access card entry)
  • VHF Channel 16 Monitor
  • Pump-out Facility
  • Water & Electric
  • FREE On-site Parking
  • Fuel Discount for Seasonal Customers
  • Self-Serve Gas and Diesel (high speed)
  • On-site Waterfront Dining
  • Shower & Laundry Facilities
  • FREE Satellite DirecTV at Slip
  • Protected Winter Wet Storage
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Summer Slip Rates
May 1 to October 31
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Vessel Size        Early Payment        Regular
                        Discount Rate         Summer Rate
                        (Paid by Feb. 1)      (Paid by Apr 15)
-----------------  ---------------------  ------------------
26' - 30'            $2,500                   $2,650
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Winter Slip Rates
November 1 to April 30
Slip Rate $44 per foot, $1000 minimum
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Old 27-07-2011, 18:35   #2
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Re: Good deal for a liveaboard marina?

geez and i thunk sin diego was high.....unless is price for season, then.....
but 44 dollars per foot is a lot. geeez, last time i was in a slip before this time, was 7.45 dollars per foot. this one is 25 dollars per foot in off season, i wont be here for high season in pairadice--will be moving or at anchor.
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Old 27-07-2011, 18:41   #3
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geez and i thunk sin diego was high.....unless is price for season, then.....
I think it's for the entire season. I'm almost sure of it since transient rates (denoted as monthly) show lower numbers.

Can you even live at anchor in a river?
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Old 27-07-2011, 18:55   #4
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I live in Washington dc and pay $600 per month year around for a Columbia 41. I have showers only and 15 amps of shore power included. It sounds to me like you are looking at a good deal. Can you bike to work too?
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Are you sure they allow liveaboards?
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Re: Good deal for a liveaboard marina?

a friend of mine in a car forum does the anchor out thing, but he also works for epa. and owns 2 huge chris craft stinkpots.

if that is season price, is a good price, but for one month is a tad high....
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I live in Washington dc and pay $600 per month year around for a Columbia 41. I have showers only and 15 amps of shore power included. It sounds to me like you are looking at a good deal. Can you bike to work too?
Perhaps. We have an excellent transportation system that will get you practically anywhere.

By excellent, I mean: "will get you practically anywhere"
And that's about it, but I'm used to it.
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Are you sure they allow liveaboards?
No, but perhaps I'm a a bit naive if they don't allow liveaboards while providing the following:

  • Discount Ship's Store (Land 'N' Sea Dealer)
  • 24-hour Security (access card entry)
  • VHF Channel 16 Monitor
  • Pump-out Facility
  • Water & Electric
  • FREE On-site Parking
  • Fuel Discount for Seasonal Customers
  • Self-Serve Gas and Diesel (high speed)
  • On-site Waterfront Dining
  • Shower & Laundry Facilities
  • FREE Satellite DirecTV at Slip
  • Protected Winter Wet Storage
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Re: Good Deal for a Liveaboard Marina ?

I actually just called there and they do not accept liveaboards. Grrr... I am in the same situation looking for a liveaboard marina, completely baffled why they are so hard to find. I have a 45 Chriscraft ... I want to live on.
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Re: Good Deal for a Liveaboard Marina ?

Most marinas, when you call will tell you that they don't have any liveaboard slips available. You have to actually go to the marina and ask in person, ideally with your boat. Me I never ask for a liveaboard slip. Just a regular slip. It's easier to convert to liveaboard status then to get liveaboard slip from the get go.
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Most marinas, when you call will tell you that they don't have any liveaboard slips available. You have to actually go to the marina and ask in person, ideally with your boat. Me I never ask for a liveaboard slip. Just a regular slip. It's easier to convert to liveaboard status then to get liveaboard slip from the get go.
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I actually just called there and they do not accept liveaboards. Grrr... I am in the same situation looking for a liveaboard marina, completely baffled why they are so hard to find. I have a 45 Chriscraft ... I want to live on.
When you find yourself baffled in life, try putting yourself in the other person's shoes.
If you owned a marina would you rather have your slips filled with empty boats that get used rarely and pay automatically on visa or a bunch of tenants constantly coming and going, requiring services, partying on weekends, endlessly squabbling with other boats, and dumping their tanks at night?
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When you find yourself baffled in life, try putting yourself in the other person's shoes.
If you owned a marina would you rather have your slips filled with empty boats that get used rarely and pay automatically on visa or a bunch of tenants constantly coming and going, requiring services, partying on weekends, endlessly squabbling with other boats, and dumping their tanks at night?
Yeah, and on the flip side when 50% of your slips are sitting empty, suddenly that "not looking like a bum" live aboard long term cruiser standing in front of you asking about a slip sounds like a nice way to earn another $4-500 a month.
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When you find yourself baffled in life, try putting yourself in the other person's shoes.
If you owned a marina would you rather have your slips filled with empty boats that get used rarely and pay automatically on visa or a bunch of tenants constantly coming and going, requiring services, partying on weekends, endlessly squabbling with other boats, and dumping their tanks at night?
Seems like kind of jaded, I have been to several marinas which have live aboards including the dock I am on, and never have seen any trouble. And with economic times like they are, I would not turn away anyone with their cheque book in hand, especially with the bankruptcy rate of marinas.
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When you find yourself baffled in life, try putting yourself in the other person's shoes.
If you owned a marina would you rather have your slips filled with empty boats that get used rarely and pay automatically on visa or a bunch of tenants constantly coming and going, requiring services, partying on weekends, endlessly squabbling with other boats, and dumping their tanks at night?
Not to low-jack the thread, but I see the opposite at our marina. The partying is almost always people who are only there every so often. The only squabbling I have personally seen has been between folks who rarely show up at the marina. The other stuff I'm not sure about.

Another note, the biggest eyesores at our marina are not liveaboards, they are boats that are never cared for, cockpits full of junk and/or water and bimini's shredded from years of weather. On the other hand, the few liveaboards we still have mostly keep their boats tip-top and are a great addition to the part-time security we have.

BTW, I'm not a liveaboard.
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