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Old 28-01-2014, 10:40   #1
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bunks that hurt!

My family and I live on our boat and often we lower the salon table as it transforms into a double birth.

In this photo, on the left is the table that lowers into a double birth.


And this photo shows the lip around the table that stabs you in the back while you sleep.



Is there something we can do aside from tearing the wood lip (trim) off. Perhaps a larger cushion? We use the 4 settee cushions that lay flat once the table is in the down position. Whats your solution? I ultimately think removing the lip will solve the problem but it does keep things in place while we sail.
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Old 28-01-2014, 10:48   #2
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Re: bunks that hurt!

Have comfortable thicker cushions made. Why mess up the table?
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Old 28-01-2014, 11:05   #3
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Re: bunks that hurt!

You can remove the fiddles but lose function of keeping things from rolling off the table. The fiddles that run athwart ship are the real offenders with sleeping comfort. They don't need to be very high to do their function. You could rip them down on a table saw or plain them in place to a more comfortable height. If they are glued as well screwed, removing them all together may cause damage to the table material that could get expensive to put right depending on your aesthetic tolerance.

Putting thicker cushions on may make the dinette uncomfortable to sit at, btdt. Accomadation tolerances on a boat are usually very tight. Do your homework before going that route.

You could also try harder foam for the cushions. Personally find the foam used in boat cushions too soft. Blasphemy, they painted it!!!! Most endearing about the boat was its industrial chic oxidized finish in WW. Your butt bottoms out and sitting on them for lengthy periods becomes uncomfortable. Harder foam could kill two birds and you wouldn't valve to have new covers made.
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Old 28-01-2014, 11:13   #4
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Re: bunks that hurt!

Dam the foam we bought new and installed is 4" thick and we were told it was the hardest available. Ill look into a different type of foam sounds like we were lied to.

This is shaping up to be The Princess and the Pea.
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Old 28-01-2014, 11:15   #5
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Re: bunks that hurt!

Custom cut a wooden board that will fit within the boundaries/on the inside of the table, and flush with the height of these "lips/fiddles". You'll get what you need; a flat table/bunk to sleep on. Remove "the insert wooden board", when it's time to use it as a table. Have fun!

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Re: bunks that hurt!

remove the fiddles or build another table without fiddles. simple solutions to big problems. the custom insert would work as long as you can adjust the level of the new platform in relation to the other cushions.
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Old 28-01-2014, 11:21   #7
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Dam the foam we bought new and installed is 4" thick and we were told it was the hardest available. Ill look into a different type of foam sounds like we were lied to.

This is shaping up to be The Princess and the Pea.
I quit trusting people that say that they have the "hardest" foam. Not many people have really done the homework. You might want to check this out:
The unbelievably complicated world of boat cushions | Sundowner Sails Again

I'm 250lbs and I sleep on the same table with no problems.
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Custom cut a wooden board that will fit within the boundaries/on the inside of the table, and flush with the height of these "lips/fiddles". You'll get what you need; a flat table/bunk to sleep on. Remove "the insert wooden board", when it's time to use it as a table. Have fun!

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Old 28-01-2014, 11:38   #9
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Have fun with it. I would cut a board and paint a backgammon or chess board on one side and put poker felt on the other, or any game you would like. So it serves more than one purpose.
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Old 28-01-2014, 11:46   #10
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Re: bunks that hurt!

This might sound stupid.... But.... Have you checked to make sure the fiddles can't be removed? I have fiddles on my boat that can.... And my boats a Beneteau, so your designer could have thought of it too.
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Re: bunks that hurt!

Even if you get the hardest foam (and we DO have the hardest foam!), it will simply bulge over the lip, and you'll still get an annoying bump.

Have cushions made to fit, with hard foam, but remember to cut out where the fiddle sits. That should solve the issue.

But first - check the table top doesn't flip upside down.
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Re: bunks that hurt!

The fiddles look to protrude only on the top. Can the table be flipped over and fit the space? If so, just lower the table supports on the seat sides so the flipped-over table is flush.
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But first - check the table top doesn't flip upside down.
This was my thought.
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Re: bunks that hurt!

Air mattress.

We sometimes like to spend the night on the sky deck and have large very comfortable ones. But we also have single ones that would fit in that situation. Easy to blow up. Easy to let the air out and store. And they don't have to be soft as you can fill them to get a nice medium firm result.
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Get some 1/2" thick foam tiles meant for flooring. Cut to fit between the fiddles. Easy to store. You may need a double layer if the fiddles are high.

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