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Old 06-12-2012, 15:32   #76
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Re: Buying Wisdom Needed

I do need a hug.

But, you just gave more information than you had in the rest of your posts.



This will be a cake walk for you.

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Old 06-12-2012, 16:04   #77
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.............................. Tell me what is wrong with a low mainlanders full keel old boat?
I don't know the "mainlanders" term, but I like a vessel with a gentle profile at the bow underwater that will strike anything at an oblique angle and a rudder contiguous with the keel and a big rudder shoe. I've been aground before and I'll be aground again. I'm not willing to sit on a free-standing rudder and be out of control with a bent rudder shaft. Regarding and earlier post,- I do well with liability insurance alone. I take the risk for my own loss out of my own pocket and I'll protect others from my mistakes. happiness is not happenstance!
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Thanks that was meant to be maintenance.

Okay, getting a quote for insurance tomorrow, look at the boat this weekend, and if it looks good ill have a survey done soon after.

I called about getting a slip for the winter. Seems there are a lot of open for now and the prices run about 300 month.
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IS THIS FORUM ALWAYS THIS RUTHLESS?
No .

But, like any forum you do have to sift through some dross / ignore some idjuts - but IMO CF better than most places online.
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Hi... Guess I should say Welcome to CF...
First what you want to do is quite do-able... in the right boat with highly developed piloting skill and a good scull oar.. you work the tides and have three alternatives to ride the ebb at anchor if its a long slow haul... I know folk who do it.
The hard bit is finding a boat that fits your accomodation/comfort/manouverability requirements... some you've picked are way to clumsy and heavy for what they have to offer... you like clipper bows look at some Cheoy Lee ketchs.. 40ft, full keel and good sailers.. and definitly have a touch of class...
You have 3mths... your an engineer... the boats on a trailer so can go anywhere... nearly half your limit... take a look...
http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/core/lis...g_id=65052&url=

Oh and set her up with legs so's you can stand at low water in shallow tidal area's... lotsa planning mate
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Old 11-12-2012, 17:05   #81
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"Hey we all know sailors (not yachtsmen) have sailed for hundreds of years without any motor why do we all insist on them now."

They didn't have antibiotics neither.
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El_Guero Wow,

I am taken back that as an engineer yourself you have made many assumptions and with virtually no solid data to back this assumption. Allow me to answer some of your silly questions.

1. I am not retiring (traditionally speaking) I am young and will continue to work while sailing.
2. I do have blue water experience I am a WAR vet as I sailed in the US NAVY.
3. $45K is my bottom line so that I may have capital to continue living aboard.
4. I have spent years at sea - 32 days was the longest period without stopping.
5. I will have power as this is simple to obtain. Who said I would not want power?
6. I will make water by rubbing two sticks together real slow. Try it.
7. My 3 year old in fact loves to sail and enjoys wearing his life jacket, he says look dad I am a sailor.
8. I have taken a few sailing and seamanship courses one at the local college here.
9. I don't have any friends I am a nerd engineer and frown on social situation.
10. I was taught to sail by instructors, myself, and books. As an engineer I can read and learn from what I am reading.
11. I tough my son to swim, in fact he was born under water and has loved it since birth.
12. The terminology I was referring to is not what you are thinking. I know what a mast is and a boom etc, what I lack is the vericulum needed to engineer the hull of a sailboat.
13. A full keel boat does not mean sitting at anchor all the time. You my friend need a hug!

I will offer my knowledge to you and others if they feel the need to validate my engineering claim. Ask me about voltage dividers, low-pass filters, impedance matching, RF communications, CE approval, PCB designs, FR4 perhaps or what about the folding of space and time dilation and how its related to your TV screen?Want to talk about bubble sorts, PID's, kalman filters or clock jitters?

IS THIS FORUM ALWAYS THIS RUTHLESS? All I wanted was help deciding on a boat and next thing I know I have the FBI asking me things like can my son swim. Why don't I have enough money etc.
Good post!

"Is insurance as easy for a boat as it is with a car?" for liability only ... YES.
"IS THIS FORUM ALWAYS THIS RUTHLESS?" Unfortunately, much of the time.
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Good post!

"Is insurance as easy for a boat as it is with a car?" for liability only ... YES.
"IS THIS FORUM ALWAYS THIS RUTHLESS?" Unfortunately, much of the time.
Agreed! There are a lot of theorists out there sailing their armchairs around the loungeroom. Pay them no heed as there are far more who are supportive, rather than cynical.
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While going without an engine is fine. Consider the fact that the best cruising areas are also have the least reliable wind. Obvious if you think about it. Same reason solar power is more popular than wind power.
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Re: Buying Wisdom Needed

I agree that the plan is doable without the engine, but I don't see anything else that could increase the viability of the plan more than the presence of a small engine in order to maneuver in times and places of risk.
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The engine will stay for now.
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Alright, I think my wife and I found "the" boat. She is going to need some work but what I can't understand is why someone would remove the backing plates on the stanchions. Kind of keeps me wondering. This boat, a blue water boat, has odd things here and there that are just strange, but overall appears to be the boat we want.

Is repairing a crank 9" long in the gel coating difficult?
I have checked all the hoses, electrical, rigging and they look execellant.
Decks are very solid, I think.
Either brass or heavy stainless hardware everywhere on the boat
Roller ferling sail had a fine green coating. I think this is moss or mold.
The motor has saltwater cooling. This has to be a bad thing & if so can I improve this?
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Re: Buying Wisdom Needed

First I suggest that you not commit to buying before checking your concerns.

If the backing plates on the stanchions have been removed you gotta ask "why?". There could be a perfectly rational explanation or the boat could have been cannibalized, in which case a whole lot of essential fittings could be missing.

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The motor has saltwater cooling. This has to be a bad thing & if so can I improve this?
Saltwater, or raw water, cooling is standard on many marine engines.
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Alright, I think my wife and I found "the" boat. She is going to need some work but what I can't understand is why someone would remove the backing plates on the stanchions. Kind of keeps me wondering. This boat, a blue water boat, has odd things here and there that are just strange, but overall appears to be the boat we want.

Is repairing a crank 9" long in the gel coating difficult?
I have checked all the hoses, electrical, rigging and they look execellant.
Decks are very solid, I think.
Either brass or heavy stainless hardware everywhere on the boat
Roller ferling sail had a fine green coating. I think this is moss or mold.
The motor has saltwater cooling. This has to be a bad thing & if so can I improve this?
9 inch crack in teh gelcoat could be a concern. How did it get there? Gelcoat just doesnt crack on its own. And is it just in the gelcoat?

Moss on the furler? Is the boat stored in a pretty humid place?

Salt water cooling can be good or bad. Converting can be easy or hard. What kind of motor is it?
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