Law of the 'High Seas'

[perchance]

"Got any flotsam? I got some. Got any jetsam? I can get some." Quoting some guy I can"t remember.

[delmarrey]

Originally Posted by perchance

Let's see now, this thread started out as a comment on the need for laws governing the use of the high seas then evolved into the Texas garbage patch and we are now onto clubbing baby seals. I can't wait to see where we are going next. Carry on gentlemen.

And this why some threads are closed. They get off course because the point of the thread has lost it appeal. Which starts to merge into another thread. http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ere-50754.html

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by perchance

Let's see now, this thread started out as a comment on the need for laws governing the use of the high seas then evolved into the Texas garbage patch and we are now onto clubbing baby seals. I can't wait to see where we are going next. Carry on gentlemen.

Correction.. not governing the use of the 'High Sea's'... more like stopping/managing/controlling the pollution of the same.... and its not just related to plastic.. thats just one of the problems... as seen in the by products this OP has thrown up its not a singular abuse that blights our vista and threatens sea life.. it also involves chemicals in other forms that is making fish dangerous for consumption, both for wildlife and man... sound pollution which can also affect balance/life...
I'm worried that the day may come when swimming in the sea carries a Health Warning.... everywhere... not just the few places around the world already

[delmarrey]

There are solutions to trash.

Man Invents Machine To Convert Plastic Into Oil

[Feral Cement]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Commercalism should ALWAYS be monitored... it has no conscience

Here, here!

"Behind every great fortune is a crime."

John

[VirtualVagabond]

Originally Posted by Feral Cement

Here, here!

"Behind every great fortune is a crime."

John

A bit harsh.... and sweeping... Bill Gates might be one of the exceptions, and there are bound to be others... Robert Mugabe the validation

[hummingway]

Originally Posted by VirtualVagabond

A bit harsh.... and sweeping... Bill Gates might be one of the exceptions, and there are bound to be others... Robert Mugabe the validation

Gates does a lot of good things and has done well but Microsoft has been convisted of breaking a number of laws. Not sure he's the best exception.

[VirtualVagabond]

Originally Posted by hummingway

Gates does a lot of good things and has done well but Microsoft has been convisted of breaking a number of laws. Not sure he's the best exception.

I think the quote is meant to say that all great fortunes are made by doing something criminal to get there.

Microsoft was convicted after making a vast amount of money.

But I don't think Bill Gates has been convicted of anything, and he was the example I cited.
But there's also Warren Buffett, George Soros, countless movie stars and bands...

I just happen to think it's one of those dumb-arsed, sour grapes inflamatory statements meant to rally the disconted masses...

And I'm not for one moment defending the big end of town because we are being brainwashed and robbed blind by pharmaceutical companies, major food companies etc etc etc... and don't get me started on govt taxes of every shape and size...

[David_Old_Jersey]

Originally Posted by VirtualVagabond

A bit harsh.... and sweeping... Bill Gates might be one of the exceptions, and there are bound to be others... Robert Mugabe the validation

I am sure that Bill Gates is a nice guy.

But I am very glad that the Middle East oil is controlled by Arab Dictators / OPEC and not by Bill Gates / Microsoft - would be $100 a pint. for crude. and you'd have to get used to switching yer car off and back on

[S/V Alchemy]

And you'd have to wear these sunglasses when you drove:

[Astrid]

"Behind every great fortune is a crime."

I believe that paraphrases a line in Honoré de Balzac's Le Père Goriot. The original quotation in French is
"Le secret des grandes fortunes sans cause apparente est un crime
oublié, parce qu' il a été proprement fait."

which means loosely, 'the secret of an unaccounted-for great fortune is a crime
undiscovered because it was executed properly.'

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by VirtualVagabond

I just happen to think it's one of those dumb-arsed, sour grapes inflamatory statements meant to rally the disconted masses...

Not trying to rally anyone as I could not GAF..... just stating a fact....
Stings supposed to be WONDERFUL.... now go and ask the S American indians he screwed over.... or Costner after Dances with Wolves... yeah the Souix love him... not....
As for Bill Gates... with the kind of money he pulls a day its chump change and good marketing...

[Feral Cement]

Originally Posted by Astrid

which means loosely, 'the secret of an unaccounted-for great fortune is a crime undiscovered because it was executed properly.'

'Not getting caught' does not make it less of a crime. Just ask the fraudsters on Wall St. who knowingly made bad loans, sold loans they knew were bad as 'AAA', then bet against the value of the loans while forclosing on homeowners whether or not they could prove the chain of title. Sure there are exceptions, but very few join the "5% Club" by being kinder and gentler.

John

[dpons]

Originally Posted by VirtualVagabond

A bit harsh.... and sweeping... Bill Gates might be one of the exceptions

Microsoft has been found guilty of crimes and paid billions in fines in several countries.
Hardly a law-abiding citizen...

[nv5l]

Don't know about any crimes, but Bill comes from a very wealthy family, so it's not like he started out with nothing. His dad's an attorney and his mom is/was on the board for UW.

That said, he's still probably the smartest guy around. I've never met him, so I can't speak to his character, but he's sure doing a lot of good work with the fortune he made.