Mono vs multihull

[Dulcesuenos]

With any boat you reef when ever you thi k about it. I have been on a cruising cat in a 40kt gust with full sail and guess what it rounded up. I took a "charter"out the other dayand showed him a cat in full cruising form with lar keels can sail 45 degrees to windward np. To flip a cat or rolla mono you are either somewhere you shouldnt be or incredibly careless. Besides how many monos could handle the kind of beating induced by a rollover and not loose a hatch and sink. Or a mast etc. The boats that could handle this I would think are at the higher end of the spectrum. Severals lifes are lost when monos roll. Not sure the stats on cats. But there was one that survived afloat when many monos sank on the Queens birthday storm. In fact I believe every mono rolled and was dismasted and the only two cats lay ahull and had min imal damage/ injuries. I could be wrong ......

[minaret]

Originally Posted by Dulcesuenos

With any boat you reef when ever you thi k about it. I have been on a cruising cat in a 40kt gust with full sail and guess what it rounded up. I took a "charter"out the other dayand showed him a cat in full cruising form with lar keels can sail 45 degrees to windward np. To flip a cat or rolla mono you are either somewhere you shouldnt be or incredibly careless. Besides how many monos could handle the kind of beating induced by a rollover and not loose a hatch and sink. Or a mast etc. The boats that could handle this I would think are at the higher end of the spectrum. Severals lifes are lost when monos roll. Not sure the stats on cats. But there was one that survived afloat when many monos sank on the Queens birthday storm. In fact I believe every mono rolled and was dismasted and the only two cats lay ahull and had min imal damage/ injuries. I could be wrong ......

Yea, you would be wrong. The cat Ramtha was abandoned by all hands during that storm. She lost steering, several large portholes stove in, bulkheads were sprung, and the crew felt the boat was breaking up. They got rescued, here's some pics and a link to an account of the rescue. There's also a great book about the storm which I can't remember the title of right now, lots about Ramtha there. The only boats to survive the storm unscathed with crew intact were monos.



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Queens Birthday Storm 1994 - HMNZS MONOWAI

[smj]

Originally Posted by minaret

Yea, you would be wrong. The cat Ramtha was abandoned by all hands during that storm. She lost steering, several large portholes stove in, bulkheads were sprung, and the crew felt the boat was breaking up. They got rescued, here's some pics and a link to an account of the rescue. There's also a great book about the storm which I can't remember the title of right now, lots about Ramtha there. The only boats to survive the storm unscathed with crew intact were monos.

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Queens Birthday Storm 1994 - HMNZS MONOWAI

If I recall correctly,Ramtha was found floating a month or so later. Also if I recall correctly, a famous offshore mono, a Westsail 32 sunk and everyone onboard was lost?

[smj]

Originally Posted by smj

If I recall correctly,Ramtha was found floating a month or so later. Also if I recall correctly, a famous offshore mono, a Westsail 32 sunk and everyone onboard was lost?

My mistake. The Westsail did sink but the crew was rescued. It was a 40' mono from New Zealand that sank and the crew was lost. Ramtha was found floating a couple of weeks later in good shape and sailed back to Australia.

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by minaret

Yea, you would be wrong. The cat Ramtha was abandoned by all hands during that storm. She lost steering, several large portholes stove in, bulkheads were sprung, and the crew felt the boat was breaking up. They got rescued, here's some pics and a link to an account of the rescue. There's also a great book about the storm which I can't remember the title of right now, lots about Ramtha there. The only boats to survive the storm unscathed with crew intact were monos.



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Queens Birthday Storm 1994 - HMNZS MONOWAI

You might be wrong too, they lost steering and abandoned Ramtha, but I've never heard about portholes stove in, or the boat breaking up.

She looked fine when I was aboard her a few years ago in Hervey bay.

There were at least two other cats in the vicinity that didn't issue maydays - one is called Fallado, can't recall the other ATM.

An account of the storm: Multihull Dynamics, Inc. - News Article

[minaret]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

You might be wrong too, they lost steering and abandoned Ramtha, but I've never heard about portholes stove in, or the boat breaking up.

She looked fine when I was aboard her a few years ago in Hervey bay.

There were at least two other cats in the vicinity that didn't issue maydays - one is called Fallado, can't recall the other ATM.

An account of the storm: Multihull Dynamics, Inc. - News Article

You may be right (about me being wrong), I think I may be confusing the cat Ramtha with the cat Heart Light, which broke up and was abandoned during the storm. Too many hippie names. Here's the book I was thinking of, it's a great read.


Rescue in the Pacific: A True Story of Disaster and Survival in a Force 12 Storm: Tony Farrington: 9780070486195: Amazon.com: Books


The 1994 Queen's birthday storm | Pangolin

[Factor]

Originally Posted by minaret

You may be right (about me being wrong), I think I may be confusing the cat Ramtha with the cat Heart Light, which broke up and was abandoned during the storm. Too many hippie names. Here's the book I was thinking of, it's a great read.

He is definitely right about you being wrong. Ramtha (a simpson cat) has virtually no damage when recovered and like 44C I have been on the boat since. Heartlight was floating quite happilly un till the interesting owners asked for it to be set to its doom.

[minaret]

Originally Posted by Factor

He is definitely right about you being wrong. Ramtha (a simpson cat) has virtually no damage when recovered and like 44C I have been on the boat since. Heartlight was floating quite happilly un till the interesting owners asked for it to be set to its doom.

That's not what is described in the book, which has transcriptions of the radio logs. The owners of Heart Light may have been kooky, but they described loss of steering, stove in large portholes, failed bulkheads, and I vividly remember their description of a large 2" wide crack in the house roof which opened and shut every time the boat flexed in the waves. She was far from "floating quite happily".