Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-04-2011, 07:27   #1
Registered User
 
GorillaToast's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ohio
Boat: Catalina 22
Posts: 150
Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

Launch Day at the marina is this Saturday. I'm definately not going to make that. Spring here in Ohio has not been kind to those of us that have work to do on our boats. Besides bottom paint, I need to drill and epoxy-fill holes for numerous deck fittings (bow rail bases, t-tracks, stanchion bases, etc.).

High temps for the last week have been below 50deg. This coming week could see temps in the mid 50's, but thats late in the afternoon. Morning temps will be in the 30's.

My question is this: What is the minumum temperature I can reasonably fill the holes with epoxy and have it cure?
GorillaToast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 07:33   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Baltimore, USA
Boat: Irwin Citation 39 'Chesagansett'
Posts: 159
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

WEST has a formulation good down to 40 deg.
WEST SYSTEM | The 105 System - 205 Fast Hardener
steve_hendry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 07:45   #3
Senior Cruiser
 
GordMay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,462
Images: 241
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

Read the label on the specific product.

Each hardener has an ideal temperature cure range. At any given temperature, each resin/hardener combination will go through the same cure stages, but at different rates. Select the hardener that gives you adequate working time for the job you are doing at the temperature and conditions you are working under. The product guide and container labels describe hardener pot lives and cure times.
In cool conditions use a faster hardener, or use supplemental heat to raise the epoxy temperature above the hardener's minimum recommended application temperature. Use a hot air gun, heat lamp or other heat source to warm the resin and hardener before mixing or after the epoxy is applied. At room temperature, supplemental heat is useful when a quicker cure is desired.

For detailed information on working with epoxy at low temperatures, refer to West Systems’ "Cold Temperature Bonding and Coating with Epoxy" (002-915).

Here ➥ http://www.westsystem.com/ss/use-guides/

Specifically ➥ http://www.westsystem.com/ss/cold-temperature-bonding/
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 15:33   #4
Registered User
 
GorillaToast's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ohio
Boat: Catalina 22
Posts: 150
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

I will be using West System Six 10 which is pre-packaged in a tube and mixes within the nozzel. A friend suggested I put a ligh bulb inside a cardboard box to bring the heat up. The only temperature info on the label refers to cure time at 72 deg. I plan to try that tomorrow.

Geez, I wish it would warm up soon!
GorillaToast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 15:39   #5
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Endeavour 42CC
Posts: 1,182
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

I've had great results with EpoxyUSA - Solvent free epoxy and supplies for home, garage, marine, boat, and office.

They have a lot of specialty products, including low temp epoxy. All are amine free which is a very good thing. Good support. Much less expensive too!
gettinthere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 15:43   #6
Registered User
 
GorillaToast's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ohio
Boat: Catalina 22
Posts: 150
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

Quote:
Originally Posted by gettinthere View Post
I've had great results with EpoxyUSA - Solvent free epoxy and supplies for home, garage, marine, boat, and office.

They have a lot of specialty products, including low temp epoxy. All are amine free which is a very good thing. Good support. Much less expensive too!
Thanks for the link. A bit pricey for me and my $850 20 footer, tho.
GorillaToast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 16:22   #7
Scurvy Dog
 
Skylark's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lake Michigan
Posts: 121
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

I frequently use epoxy in the 30s F. Mix well, more than usual. It may take several days to solidify, and may never completely cure until it warms up, so don't remove clamps for a week. If you are filling holes with epoxy, you should have no problem, just don't sand it down until it has completely hardened.
__________________
+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Skylark
https://cruisenews.net
Skylark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 16:23   #8
Registered User
 
Lancerbye's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Cormorant Island, BC, Canada
Boat: Lancer 44 Motorsailer
Posts: 1,877
Images: 38
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

Quote:
Originally Posted by GorillaToast View Post
Thanks for the link. A bit pricey for me and my $850 20 footer, tho.
Actually those are good prices for epoxy. We can't get it that cheap here.
__________________
The basis of accomplishment is in never quitting
Mengzi Meng-tse
Lancerbye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 18:43   #9
Moderator Emeritus
 
Boracay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Sunshine Coast, Qld, Australia
Boat: CyberYacht 43
Posts: 5,174
Images: 19
15 Degrees Celsius...

I've found (through extensive trial and error) that the minimum temperature for the 5:1 generic epoxy that I use is 15 degrees Celsius. Warmer is better...
Boracay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 19:40   #10
Registered User
 
GorillaToast's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ohio
Boat: Catalina 22
Posts: 150
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay View Post
Read the label on the specific product.

Each hardener has an ideal temperature cure range. At any given temperature, each resin/hardener combination will go through the same cure stages, but at different rates. Select the hardener that gives you adequate working time for the job you are doing at the temperature and conditions you are working under. The product guide and container labels describe hardener pot lives and cure times.
In cool conditions use a faster hardener, or use supplemental heat to raise the epoxy temperature above the hardener's minimum recommended application temperature. Use a hot air gun, heat lamp or other heat source to warm the resin and hardener before mixing or after the epoxy is applied. At room temperature, supplemental heat is useful when a quicker cure is desired.

For detailed information on working with epoxy at low temperatures, refer to West Systems’ "Cold Temperature Bonding and Coating with Epoxy" (002-915).

Here ➥ WEST SYSTEM | Use Guides

Specifically ➥ Cold Temperature Bonding
Gord, thanks for the links. The cold-temperature one was especially helpful. I've got some of the new G/Flex from West Sytems. It says on the label it will cure down to 40 deg. I'll wait until early afternoon when it's above mid-40s and heat the part before I fill the holes. Or, maybe I'll just remove the thing from the boat and take it inside to do it. The holes for stanchion bases and other fittings will just have to wait a week or so 'til spring really comes.
GorillaToast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2011, 14:38   #11
Registered User
 
hard aground's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: St. Thomas, no not that one.
Boat: C&C 27 mkI
Posts: 57
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

Why not get your bottom paint on and do your deck work later in the water?
hard aground is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2011, 19:07   #12
Registered User
 
GorillaToast's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ohio
Boat: Catalina 22
Posts: 150
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

The way the current weather situation is here in Ohio it will be a week-and-a-half to 2wks before I can paint - water or ice falling from the sky almost every day lately. I thought I could at least get the hardware on while I wait for warmer temps, but I guess not.
GorillaToast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 16:55   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tasmania
Boat: VandeStadt IOR 40' - Insatiable
Posts: 2,317
Images: 91
Re: Minimum Temp To Use Epoxy

A warm air source (hair dryer, or small fan heater) directed at the epoxy in the container (bottle / tube) for a while before use will help slightly. Directing warm air at the job once the epoxy is applied can also help.
Weyalan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
epoxy


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mahe 36: Minimum Equipment on a New Order ? ArmyChief Fountaine Pajot 11 05-02-2011 07:49
Minimum Cruising Budget Springbok Dollars & Cents 15 08-12-2010 16:42
Bare Minimum aegean adrift Families, Kids and Pets Afloat 34 20-10-2010 16:50
temp repair to steel hull using epoxy & fibreglass matting? conachair Construction, Maintenance & Refit 3 17-01-2009 11:34
Minimum number of knots to know Talbot General Sailing Forum 40 25-09-2008 03:02

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 16:11.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.