The good, the bad, and the heavy of the Privilege 465

[canadian cat]

What are the talking points for the 465?

The wood work is nice.
The construction is ???

The listed displacement is 12.5 tons. This is 3-5 tons more than other similar length cats. Such as a Lagoon 47 (old one) or Catana 471.
The privilege has wider hulls by about 0.75' Is the load capability affected by all the nice wood??

[Dulcesuenos]

We've poked at several. All had excessive leaks mildew rot etc from a terribly designed front windows a electrical systems We're complete nightmares from wonderful French electricians. These were 39s the 45s I'm not sure but can't imagine they re that different. Having said that they are slow but heavy safe comfy cruisers


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[belizesailor]

Haven't sailed the 465, but have sailed a number of other Privileges. Good boats in general, solid build (windows are an evil idea on most any boat), dont like helm placement on most, but you get used to it.

Despite being big chunky boats they sail surprisingly well. Used to captain a 44 a lot that would easily cruise at 10 knots. The electrical system was a bit quirky on this one too, but not sure how much of that was original or PO mods.

The long nacele characteristic of Priveleges seems to make them sail at anchor a bit like a mono. Not normal on a cat without this feature.

[canadian cat]

Just looking at the windows makes you wonder why they need to be so complex. They don't add that much appeal compared to two windows.

[emcmia]

Can't comment on the 465. However, I've been sailing a 1993 Jeantot Marine built P43 since 1995 and have experienced none of the deficiencies cited. Sails well enough, even with Leasure Furl system; highest SOG to date was 17.5 kts (but 10 to 12 more typical). Motors 11 to 12 with upgraded 56hp 4JH3 Yanmars. Hull construction is heavy but bullet proof. Bridle eliminates sailing at anchor. Have single handed many miles without incident.
Late 1990s Alliaura acquisition degraded an otherwise well designed and very comfortable cruising boat. I suggest problems are less systemic and more boat specific based on PO maintenance and ops.
After 20 years of ownership and comparing a lot of competitive designs, I have no intentions of replacing it (even if I can't fit a washer/dryer or automatic dishwasher).

[Dulcesuenos]

Alliaura purchased them in 1996 all the ones (4 total) we looked at were 1992-1994 that were "issue ridden" while I agree owner maintenance has a lot to do with it , poorly designed windows, terrible electrical systems, deck hardware bedded into wooded coring improperly, wooden interior supports and bulkheads going below floor contacting bilge water (thank you window leaks) are issues that demand more than the avg boat. Im not saying I wouldn't own one, I love the p37 and would buy one if it had been meticulously maintained. I'm wondering what did alliaura do to make them worse?


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