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Old 07-05-2010, 17:07   #1
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Looking at the 38' Kadey Krogen Cutter

so whats the goods and bads about the 38' Kadey Krogen Cutter.

the one that im looking hase the
3'2" - 6'8" draft

looks in good condition

looking to liveabord then do some long distance off shore sailing in a fue years
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:57   #2
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The best part of the Kadey Krogen is her shoal draft. Especially over where I am in South Florida and the Bahamas, her 3'2" boards up draft is a really nice. Jim Krogen was a Miami guy and designed for the Bahamas. While you can get anywhere with less than 6' draft, it makes it so much easier and less stressful to have real shoal draft.

The number one item I would look for is the engine. You might want to steer clear of ones with high hour Pathfinders, old Perkins, or Westerbekes. The best options would have a low-hour Yanmar. Or budget in a repowering job which can run $20,000. Another item to look for is if the bottom has been stripped and barrier coated. Two Krogen 38's I know of had this done, and it seems to be necessary.

She is not your prototypical long distance offshore boat. Her strengths are more as a good liveaboard (a friend of mine lives aboard on one) and gunkholer.
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Friends of ours circumnavigated on one. They still have the boat and still sail it.
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Old 10-05-2010, 23:33   #4
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ok so i have been looking at the boats motor
It is equipped with a

Engine Brand: Perkins
Engine(s) HP: 50
Engine Model: 4-108
Engine Hours: 1603


I have done some hunting and it seems it is a decent engine, it haze its quirks like out side oil lines but like anything else just needs to be replaced and monitored, a fue have seized up due to the lines braking but installing a oil pressure engine cut off would solve that. Its old so no glower plugs so it will be a beast to start in the cold but most estimate it to go more than 5k hrs before a rebuild. Is there something I have missed about this engine?
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:43   #5
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A 4-108 with 1603 hours is a good prospect. This is a very common diesel and easy to get replacement parts for. You will find these with 10,000 hours and spinning like a top if properly maintained.
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Old 11-05-2010, 23:56   #6
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well its time to make my move hate doing it so early but it seems someone made a offer time to be a ******* and make a better offer, hate doing it from the other side of the world but this boat hase gotten my attention, just going to send out a friend and a servayor to take a ton of pix and what not.touch and look at everything.
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Old 15-06-2010, 14:55   #8
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naaa it was bought up just before i put a offer in
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I am in the process of doing a complete rebuild on a 1981 . We are in year 6 and with a little luck will complete in the next 3 months . I own a marina and this was taken down to the hull on the interior and now on the final refit . We started on the outside and did a bottom peel and replaced with a epoxy bottom with west system. topside was alwgripped It is now at the point that cost is not an issue as I will never get back what we have put into it. We epoxied 1" thick stringers to the interior and will put 1" teak and holly sole on top so will be far better than the nailed and cut strips that was originally used . I am looking at larger a vessel to set up for charter- This has a great family layout but poor for my needs - The designer did a great job I had the ability at the time to change the layout but what was original works best -
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sounds interesting, why did you do suck a extreme refit.
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The boat was one of the first few made . I think they skimmped on the non structural wood . so all the ply under the sole , setees etc all turned into tissue paper the glue just disapeared. So what you had was teak covering tissue paper , when you walked on the sole it was like walking on marshmellows . the other problem areas are the corners where the hull , top and components all come together , you will find leaking in most of these boats in these areas , We removed all of the wood in the galley , v berth and master stateroom and reglassed these areas to prevent leakage . We also fiberglassed the toe rail rather than rebedding so it would only have to be done once . The previous owners were livaboards and as such were limited on major repair to the interior . We are now finishing up the plumming and will start on replacing the 120 ac and DC panels and associated wiring. I think I can see some light at the end of the tunnel.....
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ah i see
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Hey Bath, you have any shots of the refit? Would love to see them.
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I do have pictures of the refit , not extensive , I will put them together at a later time as the wounds are still too painful to look at until I get a little closer to the finish -
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hows the refit comming along?
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