Thank you everyone for the info. I really apprieciate all of your opinions and knowledge. The thing I am picking up most for you guys is to be carefull about the partnership
. We plan to be very careful. We are all very good friends. We hang out alot together, camp together and one of the guys works for me and is my motorcycle riding buddy. This is our plan, please let me know if any of this is mistake or if you have any suggestions. We are first going to start with the tender
, some sort of inflatable
. We plan on using and playing with it in local waters. Our idea is to start small and see how we interact with each other on the water
. When it comes to the sailboat we will form a legal California partnership
with the documents drawn up by an attorney. We will all be equal equity partners. We are going to put down as much as possible in writing so that there are no assumptions. Some of the list may be: Calander of who gets to use it for what time. What the perameters are for sharing the boat during another couples time. Rules for how people enter or exit the partnership. We are also going to set up a bank account for the partnership that we will each contribute a set monthly amount to (maybe $150-$200) the account. This money
will be used for monthly maintenance
and mooring fees
. We will also have a clause for special assesments for larger repairs
or higher dollar maintenance
. We will also have some sort of clause for responsibilty of damaged caused by one of the partners. We are definately going to have a detailed check list of procedures to take it out and put it away. We all think this is a good way for us to enjoy a sailboat at a reduced cost. It will also give us some great people to sail with.
Speaking of sailing together. It would be very rare that all three couples would do an overnight trip together. The boat would just be too crowded. We might to an overnight to the Channel Islands with all six, but some would most likely camp on the beach. We would however like it to be large enough for six people for day sailing
and four people for overnight trips. The longer mutiple week trips would be reserved for one couple most likely. I didn't make this clear in my first post.
As far as the boats, the Catalina 30
seems to be large on the interior
and there are plenty of them close enough by in our price
range in good condition. Some even have newish diesel
engines and a good sail inventory. I think we would definately prefer roller furling
for the jib
. Is this an expensive upgrade? Or should this be a big priority in searching for "the boat".
I know there is a huge difference in size between a 27 and a 34. I have sailed a 27 Jaguar
for two weeks and a 33 Bavaria
for two weeks. The Jaguar
was almost too small for my wife and I. Part of this was due to poor layout, part was due to smallish boat. The Bavaria
seemed very large after the Jaguar. The Bavaria seemed plenty large enough for our needs. I think it would have slept six comfortably. Keep in mind we are all good campers and can rough it a bit, if we need or want to.
A couple of you have mentioned Ericson
as something we should consider. We will. We do not have a bunch of knowledge about boats YET. That is why I asked for your suggestions. There are also many Ericsons available close by, we will check them out. Paul, however, had an excellent point that we really had not thought about. The Admirals! The captains and I have been doing most of the planning so far. We really need to make sure we have the blessings of the admirals or there may be no boat at all. They might not be willing to rough it as much as the captains. We may have to sacrafice sailing ability for creature comforts. This makes me think again about the Catalina 30
. What are some of the true draw backs of this boat?
Thanks again everyone! This is going to be a truly great resource for us. I just wish I would have found it several years ago.