Free Boat

[CharlieCobra]

I can attest how fast a narrow design can be. Oh Joy is 40' LOA with a beam of 9'10" and easily exceeds hull speed. I can only imagine how quick this old girl would be.

[Solosailor]

I sent and email but no reply yet.

[Stillraining]

I have put this on three different boards..To my knowledge no one has gotten a response..The guy may be having second thoughts of just giving it away with all the attention its generating or is perhaps indeed just a little weird about whom this boat will go to as stated in his add.

So I might just take a drive , a peak and some photos of Dels "if its the one close to mine" boat tomorrow and post up some pictures.

Stay tuned...I have a mission..and it sounds like fun.

Del if your around beers or coffee is on me...

[delmarrey]

Stillraining,

Yeah I'll be up in Everett tomorrow. Others have been looking at it for the past month so I assume it's probably the one. I'll bring the video recorder.

I'll send you a PM........_/)

[shadow]

Thanks guys, looking forward to the shots and your personal input of what you saw and your overall assessment.. Cheers

[Solosailor]

Still and Del: really interested in what you see. PM me with pictures PLEASE!

[delmarrey]

I do know he had some work being done for delamination of some of the strips, and that the keel is out on the ground as well as the masts. The last I seen of it the hull was being faired out. It would probably have to stay at Dagmar's until the bottom is done, unless someone trucked it out.

BTW pictures can not be sent via PM's, just links.

[Solitude]

Originally Posted by James S

Interesting boat...you guys in the states get all the cool stuff.
44ft with an 8ft beam seems unusual.
I think your assessment may be right Scott...this could be a keeper.

This is whats on the link...

44' LOA, 9'-3" beam, adjustable draft 5.5' to 8.5 feet, displacement 8000 lbs, ballast 4000 lb. 22 hp Universal diesel inboard with folding prop give about 7 .5 knots under power.

[Stillraining]

OK here ya go.

This thing appears to have a very high build quality...The hull is very fair and hard to detect much flaw. He has definitely paid attention to detail and is a meticulous type person... what little of the strip planking that was still visible was tight and well encapsulated with no signs of air pockets or poor saturation.

The Keel arrangement is unusual to say the least and IMHO will be the toughest part in finishing this design.
Those familiar with racing designs will notice this one has its own mid ship water tight compartment for the keel and its canting hydraulics ( which were not to be seen ) to sit in and does not share the common saloon interior..

This does split the ship in two separate sections..much like a few Bill Garden designed boats....but a definite plus for hull integrity if something were to go awry with the keel...The keel box could basically flood and not affect the safety of the ship from a sinking standpoint.

The sticks seem short for the boat being Keel stepped as they are barley longer then the hull itself and it might be beneficial to deck step them to gain some aspect ratio.

All and all this is one of the finest hulls and decks I have ever seen for a home built...although I did not venture into the craft without having permission and I could not peer into the main salon due to it being locked up.

The plumb bow and the hulls forward sections of entry look exceedingly fine and I wish my boat had it...The stern is canoe and plumb as well.

I tip my hat to this gentleman and what he has accomplished so far.

Whomever is chosen to receive this craft will be handed down some fine craftsmanship..but will also be handed down a boat load of unknowns to deal with as well.

My feeling is if this boat would have not had the complexity of the canting keel it would have been completed long ago..If it were not for that I believe one person could have a sail-a-ble boat within a year of steady work or 2000 man hours however you went about that...All guesses are off with the canting keel as I know little about them and I saw little of the mechanics on site to make it come together.

[speakeasy]

Many tanks, Scott. I owe you a beer or three. Tho' it looks to be a sturdy build, it is still too far away from completion for my skills or vision. As the first to express interest, I hereby relinquish my claim on said boat.

[Stillraining]

Originally Posted by speakeasy

Many tanks, Scott. I owe you a beer or three. Tho' it looks to be a sturdy build, it is still too far away from completion for my skills or vision. As the first to express interest, I hereby relinquish my claim on said boat.

Im with you on that...I'd jump on the bid list for a Navy 44..

[delmarrey]

Here are some additional pictures......

[Jeff H]

This is a really great boat. This is a modern version of Red Herring. Red Herring was a legendary experimental boat built in the 1960's with a canting keel. She was notoriously fast. This boat was built in the 80's as an updated version of the original concept. There was an article in WoodenBoat about this boat that told the whole story.

This boat was not home built and had been up and sailing with the retractable, canting keel many years ago. Compared to the complexity of building any boat, the retractable canting keel as it was executed on this boat was the easy part.

Because of the stability of this boat, its light weight and low drag, it did not require a lot of sail area and so sailed very well with the short rig that she was built with.

Jeff

[Morgan Paul]

This boat was once 55 feet long ?

Quote from here.
CBTFCo.com | Inventors of Canting Ballast Twin Foil™ Technology

Canting keels are definitely not a new development, and Francis Herreshoff, among others, is known to have played with them. More recently, an experimental 55-footer called-Red Herring has been sailing out of Bristol, R.l., since the early 80's,and may be the first contemporary cant keeler. Only eight feet wide and sporting a rotating mast ketch rig, she uses canting ballast to overcome her obvious. lack of form stability. And because the hydrofoil strut that supports the ballast bulb loses all effectiveness as an anti-leeway device once it's inclined far to windward, Red Herring is equipped with tandem center boards that can be deployed in various combinations for upwind and reaching work. Compared to conventional yachts, Red Herring gets a lot of speed from a very modest sail area-12 knots-plus in many conditions.
However, twin centerboards, rudder, canting keel, and two rotating spars added up to rather more complexity than most folks would care to handle.

[SabreKai]

Originally Posted by Solosailor

The question is; was this designed by a Marine Architect? Or is it some lay person's idea of a good design. It sounds quite interesting and I think it should go like stink!

Did you actually read the guys ad???


"She was built by Norton Boat Works in 1984. Designer is Dave Hubbard who also designed of the pioneering canting keel sailboat, the "Red Herring" and many race winning Class C Catamarans, the fastest class cats in existence. "


Sabre