Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-02-2011, 23:28   #1
Registered User
 
jglauds's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Boat: Orana 44
Posts: 164
Indonesia Itinerary Suggestions ?

Hi:

We have a 44' cat, currently in Cairns, AUS, and plan to leave for Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand after cyclone season.

We need to specify the islands/groups we'll be visiting in Indonesia for our cruising permit, and I'd love any sample itineraries from fellow cruisers. We plan to spend 3 months, and would like to visit the Banda Islands at a minimum.

Many thanks for any/all ideas!

/jon
__________________

__________________
jglauds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2011, 00:07   #2
Registered User
 
ozskipper's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NSW Australia
Boat: Traditional 30
Posts: 1,981
Great story in the Dec2010 Cruising Helsman on indo. It would be worth grabbing a copy.

I havent done any of Indo except for Bali, which is culturally different to just about every other part. But one tip I have heard is to take along trinket gifts for village kids etc. Some people take cheap T's from lowes Best less etc. My mother used to take little tin/gold kangas and koalas etc. You can usually get them from the $2 shops.

Keep us posted.

Cheers
Oz
__________________

__________________
ozskipper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2011, 00:20   #3
Registered User
 
svBeBe's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: from Houston, TX; currently berthed in Barcelona, headed west
Boat: Amel SM 53 - BeBe
Posts: 946
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozskipper View Post
Great story in the Dec2010 Cruising Helsman on indo. It would be worth grabbing a copy.

I havent done any of Indo except for Bali, which is culturally different to just about every other part. But one tip I have heard is to take along trinket gifts for village kids etc. Some people take cheap T's from lowes Best less etc. My mother used to take little tin/gold kangas and koalas etc. You can usually get them from the $2 shops.

Keep us posted.

Cheers
Oz
Women approached our boat in small canoes and begged for lipsticks and bright red nail polish and books for small children. The kids begged for treats of any kind. The men begged for cigarettes mostly; some asked for beer (which we did not give). We opted to give the men small size fish hooks instead.

It got to the point that every anchorage was like "trick or treating" on Halloween. The locals would paddle out and ask for all kinds of things and settle for whatever they could get. This got old very quickly and we were glad to leave Indonesia.

FWIW, Bali was great!! Would return there any time the opportunity presents itself. Cleared ourselves in and never a hint of a bribe wanted by any officials. But visiting the islands with the komodo dragons and orangutans was of no interest to us. Have those in the zoo back home and can see them there without being eaten alive by insects. Other loved going up the rivers and hiking through the jungle.

Hope you enjoy your time in Indonesia.

Judy
S/V BeBe
__________________
svBeBe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2011, 05:05   #4
Senior Cruiser
 
Minggat's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hawaii, South Pacific bound
Boat: Islander 36
Posts: 1,221
Quote:
Originally Posted by svBeBe View Post
Women approached our boat in small canoes and begged ....The kids begged........ The men begged..... for cigarettes mostly; some asked for beer (which we did not give)....

It got to the point that every anchorage was like "trick or treating" on Halloween. The locals would paddle out and ask for all kinds of things and settle for whatever they could get. This got old very quickly and we were glad to leave Indonesia.

Hope you enjoy your time in Indonesia.

Judy
S/V BeBe
Yep. That sounds like Indonesia. They have learned that it works for them.
__________________
Minggat
Minggat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2011, 05:37   #5
Registered User
 
lorenzo b's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Panama
Boat: Steel trawler 63' Eileen Farrell
Posts: 961
If you like to dive, Manado is fabulous as is Irian Jaya. The Banda Islands were our favorite. Wonderful people, great food, and breathtaking islands.
__________________
lorenzo b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2011, 06:40   #6
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Chesapeake Region and Maine
Boat: 42' Bob Perry sloop
Posts: 4,038
Images: 4
Hi, Jon...

Glad to hear you made it to Oz and are headed for new adventures in Indonesia.

I began my sailing in Indonesia over half-century ago, with a heavily built teak 18-foot sloop. It was a foot longer than my age! Sailed to many of the islands off of Djakarta, where I was then living with my parents. Here's a pic of my engineless boat, Vagabond, headed toward Damar Besar (Big Light) island in 1957. You can just make out the lighthouse near the left end of the island.

Click image for larger version

Name:	Vagabond1957_DamarB.jpg
Views:	76
Size:	246.0 KB
ID:	23753

My suggestion to you would be to: (1) enjoy the incredible cuisine of Indonesia as well as the wonderful people; and (2) learn a bit of Bahasa before you go. Jennifer could pick it up quickly...the words are pronounced exactly as they look and much as they would be in Spanish. A little facility with the language will open many doors for you.

Best to you and Jennifer.

Selamat djalan.

Bill

PS: have you used the sextant and/or the dipole yet??

B
__________________
btrayfors is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2011, 10:15   #7
Long Range Cruiser
 
MarkJ's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,828
Images: 25
Have a look at the Sail Indonesia website for their itinerates of their past rally’s and the list of cruisers websites.

Indonesia is an extremely difficult place to cruise. They really have no concept of tourism or cruising. You are looked upon suspiciously by the authorities and a vast open wad of cash by everyone else. The stealing rip offs that is cruising there in their rubbish strewn archipelago make it a pain in the damn neck. (Bali is different as its tourist savvy - still try to rip off cruisers though!)

However, forewarned, and if you are extremely intrepid, Indonesia is the new frontier of cruising.

Try Tual 005 38 S 132 44 E its close to Banda. The islands in between all look beautiful. Banda is too cute for words and you are right to have that on the list!

Ambon is interesting but only to show you how the locals treat the environment - All town rubbish is stuffed into plastic bags and shoved into the bay!

Kumi in Borneo for the Orangutans. Its a rip-off but one you will be delighted to pay. Negotiate well


Beware: There is NO rainforest in Borneo anymore. Its all been cut down. The fragments that still exist are just that. Fragments. There is a bit left in the north... but all that is destined to be converted to oil Palm too.



At least their girls know what a REAL man looks like!
__________________
Notes on a Circumnavigation.
OurLifeAtSea.com

Somalia Pirates and our Convoy
MarkJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-02-2011, 16:39   #8
Registered User
 
beau's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 757
Images: 1
I hope to cruise from Thursday island, Australia and check into Indonesia at Meurake, Irian Jaya before Tual, Banda, Ambon etc.

Is it possible to check in at Meurake?
__________________
beau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2011, 05:06   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: VA
Boat: Freya 39
Posts: 24
Re: Indonesia Itinerary Suggestions ?

In about 1991 I spent three months going from Darwin to Mindanao. I saw one or two other yachts.

List as many places on your cruising permit as possible. I basically copied the table of contents of the BA Pilot, which was approved by Jakarta. Use an agent for the application.

Learn some Bahasa, which is not too difficult a language.

At the time, it was very rare to encounter anyone with much fluency in English. Dutch was actually a more common European language, but I expect that had more to do with the Moluccan's close relationship to Holland.

The Bandas are very worthwhile.
__________________
Teremoana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2011, 19:24   #10
Sponsoring Vendor
 
malukusailor's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: The Spice Islands
Boat: 50ft yacht
Posts: 24
Re: Indonesia Itinerary Suggestions ?

After 21 years cruising among these islands I can see where most of the comments are coming from, but it is sad that those on a headlong rush through Indonesia feel most qualified to pass judgment on what is as one post said, 'frontier cruising'. I thought thats the reason we came? I expect Disneyland offers better value for money, don't know, because probably never go. Too busy looking looking for Dragons on their home zoo at Komodo and Rinca Islands. Back to the original post, more yachts are enjoying the eastern islands inc Banda and Ambon ,where you can checkin to Indonesia, on to the northern spice islands of Ternate and Tidore ,a short run over to Menado and the diving in the Bunaken national park, over the top of Borneo to Kota Kinabalu and the marina at Sutera Harbour. Just an idea, and Sail Maluku will assist with all paperwork inc C.A.I.T. and Customs bond. Indonesia isn't hard, just slow down. Oh and yes , do learn a few words of Bahasa, people the world over love it when you make a effort.
Feel free to email or PM for any further info.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
malukusailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2011, 20:17   #11
Registered User
 
surfmachine's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cruising the West coast of Sumatra and the offshore islands, surfing!!
Boat: Feltz Skorpion mark 11A, Aluminium 39' sloop, constructed Hamburg. http://photobucket.com/eloise_01
Posts: 674
Images: 9
Send a message via Skype™ to surfmachine
Floating ATM and free lance "officials"!!?

Ahoy Jon.
Put every island on your itinerary, all the main ones, plus any others that you dont even think you may go to, there is plenty of room on the CAIT for the list!

Indonesia is still a third world country, no potable water, rampant corruption!

I spent 6 months in Sumatra last year, on the islands off of the west coast and loved it! People are lovely, but the officials treat you as a floating ATM!!!

Plus, there are many "free lance" officials that will try it on for the bite. No need for gifts, except a smile and conversation?

Be absolutley sure of your correct CAIT and social visa and resist all attempts at bribery, even if they get the cuff links out and brandish an M16, like they did to me in the Banyak Islands. All smiles afterwards and bye byes from the official who said his name was Elvis Presley, when pressed for ID!!

It's real exploration sailing, never move at night or in periods of low visibilty anywhere near land. Radar, radar and radar..... is the only thing that is a worthwhile aid. The chart plotters are way out in the remote regions.

Fair winds from Keith.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1549.JPG
Views:	76
Size:	52.8 KB
ID:	25350  
__________________
Keith, "But I was born very young and grew up knowing little of the world!" http://surfmachine-surfmachine.blogspot.com.au/
surfmachine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-03-2011, 01:27   #12
Registered User
 
jglauds's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Boat: Orana 44
Posts: 164
Re: Indonesia Itinerary Suggestions ?

Hi Bill -- sorry for delay! Thanks for nice note and fond memories; my Dad was born in Indonesia and spent his teen years in a concentration camp (!) ... so I look forward to visiting for lots of reasons ... all is well -- have used the sextant on a learning basis, teaching others the fine points of a noon site ... and the dipole works fine but have not used it except to test since shroud antenna works so well.

Thanks for everything, and hope you are well!

/jon
__________________

__________________
jglauds is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Indonesia, indonesia

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help with Itinerary Lisa Great Lakes 8 15-03-2011 17:01
BVI Itinerary lgaggie96 Sailor Logs & Cruising Plans 6 23-05-2010 10:04
Abaco Itinerary abel2sail Atlantic & the Caribbean 13 16-05-2010 15:37
VI Itinerary Planning NW Craig Atlantic & the Caribbean 11 20-10-2008 16:17
Looking for St Maarten Itinerary Suggestions Lightfin General Sailing Forum 5 16-12-2005 11:00



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:42.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.