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Old 20-03-2013, 13:32   #76
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I promise you hon, if I'm oiling up a man, nothing sharp is in the works.
I just got up,6am, and one of the first things I read is this. What a smashin' thought to start the day with.

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Not grinding, too much effort involved in that, just pointing out that desire and willingness are two different things.

I promise you hon, if I'm oiling up a man, nothing sharp is in the works.
Oh...I'm sure you have a few tools of the trade my dear...

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Oh...I'm sure you have a few tools of the trade my dear...
ah, well. A little pain just makes the pleasure that much better.
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Old 20-03-2013, 14:48   #79
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Re: Is a boat a kind of "Man Cave"?

I had a thread a few years ago about "what do women want in a boat". It didn't get a lot on women input, so maybe this is partly why boats are more "man cave like" that women would like.

When getting my first boat the only input my wife had was that it had to have a stand up shower. That wasn't all that helpful, but the boat we got had it! Our current boat has 2 stand up showers just to prove how understanding to her wishes I am.
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Old 20-03-2013, 15:11   #80
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Re: Is a boat a kind of "Man Cave"?

Briefing this thread, I didn't notice mention of Cats - particularly large, luxury cats.

Setting aside power yachts, this is the pre-eminent domain for making "sailing" attractive to "most" women - at least the kind of girly-girl, no-compromises-on-comfort, style oriented, fun loving kind of women that I happen to like.

Extremely costly, but I for one am 100% committed, and getting damned creative about it too.

These boats have a flat floor, picture windows, and a few small places suitable for decorating. There are no ladders, gangplanks, or crows-nests. Just a lot of light, comfort, and hominess.

Plus you can sail it.

Why don't women enjoy living in small, dark boats? Would your your wife enjoy living in a $24,000 home (fully furnished)? One where you do engine work in the middle of the living room, and the kitchen is perpetually stocked with canned food?
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Old 20-03-2013, 15:12   #81
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Re: Is a boat a kind of "Man Cave"?

I'll have to admit that Boracay started as a man cave. In fact I'm sure I heard the selling broker was heard referring to her as a "garden shed".

I wasn't planning on going anywhere. Just a nice project to ease into retirement and then sell.

Then I made the mistake of involving my significant other in a few of the decisions like what sort of refrigerator.

Now I have a continuing list of tasks that must be done, on time on schedule.

And a boat in a "foreign" port.

And I think I'm actually stuck with going somewhere.
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Maybe nesting instincts are strong for many women, but they needn't be land based .

I certainly need some creature comforts long term (dry cosy bed being a prime example), but no problems at all with short term discomfort. In fact it just adds to the adventure .
I should mention, this is the woman that insisted on having a shower (and inflatable chair) while backpacking through Yellowstone National Park one summer.

Looking back, it was a great idea, we had a hot shower every evening but one during the summer.

(Safety note: Don't leave a black shower bag in the sun for 4 hours during the summer. If you do, don't be the first one to take a shower.)
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Old 21-03-2013, 02:50   #83
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my boat is definately my man cave i often sneak down after work for a quick sleep before heading home and facing reality ,lawns two teens and my lovely non sailing wife. on weekends it becomes a family boat and the kids and i shoot out for a sail or a fish or dive.the best of both worlds
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Re: Is a boat a kind of "Man Cave"?

A couple of years ago, a Danish business institute investigated what made successful women in the business world successful. In other words, what was the common denominator?

They discovered that the most important factor in a woman's success was (wait for it......................)

Choose the right husband.

Meaning choose a husband (boyfriend) who will support your career dreams and will be willing to subordinate his dreams to let you pursue yours.

So what does this have to do with this thread?

If you want a woman who will go cruising or RTW - choose one that
1- has a deeply imbedded sense of adventure (this is the most important one)
2- Doesn't mind if things get cold/tough/physical
3- takes pride in pulling her own weight

Whilst the above can be found in some runway model types (although perhaps not many), I would look tend to look elsewhere. Does she enjoy camping/backpacking/roughing it?

Might be a keeper

As I've said before, I'm the luckiest guy on earth. My admiral is an expert sailor and pilots our 40 footer with ease. She doesn't mind getting dirty/cold. And she also loves to get dressed up in a gown and heels and go to town.

Hell, it just doesn't get better than that.
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Why don't women enjoy living in small, dark boats? Would your your wife enjoy living in a $24,000 home (fully furnished)? One where you do engine work in the middle of the living room, and the kitchen is perpetually stocked with canned food?
Now I have read this a number of times....I can find nothing wrong with the this. as each question gets a tick from my wife except the value of a boat is a tad higher..
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Briefing this thread, I didn't notice mention of Cats - particularly large, luxury cats.

Setting aside power yachts, this is the pre-eminent domain for making "sailing" attractive to "most" women - at least the kind of girly-girl, no-compromises-on-comfort, style oriented, fun loving kind of women that I happen to like.

Extremely costly, but I for one am 100% committed, and getting damned creative about it too.

These boats have a flat floor, picture windows, and a few small places suitable for decorating. There are no ladders, gangplanks, or crows-nests. Just a lot of light, comfort, and hominess.

Plus you can sail it.
Hear him! Hear him!!

We too are "100% committed" to cruising in comfort. In fact, we built a business around it. All of our products make the cruising lifestyle more comfortable. All of our products are also fully 'blue water' tested and enjoyed at sea (and on anchor!) on CatNirvana. Many of our products are aimed at all the admirals out there who not only enjoy the sailing experience as much as the men, but who also enjoy both comfort and attractive surroundings.

Now there's the best of both worlds...the 'man cave' for the men and cruising in comfort for everyone...
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I'm the luckiest guy on earth. My admiral is an expert sailor and pilots our 40 footer with ease. She doesn't mind getting dirty/cold. And she also loves to get dressed up in a gown and heels and go to town.

Hell, it just doesn't get better than that.
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my boat is my me cave. awesome teakwood interior -- warmth and cozy and comfy. man must ask permission to cave here.....
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Hear him! Hear him!!

We too are "100% committed" to cruising in comfort. In fact, we built a business around it. All of our products make the cruising lifestyle more comfortable. All of our products are also fully 'blue water' tested and enjoyed at sea (and on anchor!) on CatNirvana. Many of our products are aimed at all the admirals out there who not only enjoy the sailing experience as much as the men, but who also enjoy both comfort and attractive surroundings.

Now there's the best of both worlds...the 'man cave' for the men and cruising in comfort for everyone...
Good lord above, I KNEW this would somehow become a mono vs multi discussion.

Let the Hunter bashing begin.
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Good lord above, I KNEW this would somehow become a mono vs multi discussion.
And I could hardly believe it had gone this long without it!
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