I'll acknowledge the elephant in the room...Full keel is dead... ssb is dead...

[zeehag]

there is no THE capt ron boat. there are 2 or three of em, i think one on worst coast and one in gom in teejass....dunno might be third is sound stage model.
40k for a partnership is insane/ sorry.

[Elie]

There is some truth about this thread, but not all. American are conservatives to say the least, and I believe they are the only one to build and buy full keeled boat. Caliber and Island Packet are still alive. But all other modern builders have developped modern boat design, with suspended rudders, wide sterns, fin keel, and wide hull to accomodate boating requirement of the 21 first century ideas, technologies. Speed and comfort, and security of the new designs have left the 'traditionnals' boats way back. But Ham radio, is fun. Other electronics I would never do without like AIS, EPIRB, electric autopilots, etc. are also product of the evolution. I remember a time when sailor where doubtfull about furling sails, electric windlass, and light displacement.

[buzzstar]

Originally Posted by goat

Goats are still in high demand I see. >:^)=

Sorry goat! No offense to you or kinfolk intended, after all, I have a goatee, and am old. Some of my friends were Billy in their younger years. I think they were in a Club. Nothing wrong with elephants either. Isn't there an old story about a goat and a troll?

[Sailorbob8599]

Originally Posted by fatherchronica

We have and use a sextant,

I asked my wife if we could get one but she says we're too old for sex

[Sailorbob8599]

Originally Posted by SV Bacchus

And he forgot the biggest coming change: 15 knots with electric propulsion for 12 hours on a small battery bank and 1 solar panel.

How do ya get 15kts out of a 23 ft waterline?

[akprb]

I love it! Fun post and a bit of truth in all of it. I've done it old school and new school. Miss some of the old but progress marches forward.

Next boat I build/buy.......disposable electronics.

We've been shopping and it's fascinating to see the change in Nav Stations from just a few short years ago.

[Sailorbob8599]

Originally Posted by tatomaceda

Enjoyed this post.
Still, as an audiophile who prefers vinyl, and a driver who still prefers manual, there is something about the attention/effort one places on his craft that increases the interaction and pleasure.
Lest we will all be sailing inside, in a Rapier 550, one hand on that Momo steering wheel.

And I'm going back again to using 35mm film!

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by Sailorbob8599

I asked my wife if we could get one but she says we're too old for sex

[buzzstar]

Originally Posted by Sailorbob8599

I asked my wife if we could get one but she says we're too old for sex

What do you use your sex tent for?

[hpeer]

Thank God he left my parrafin stoves out of it!

[buzzstar]

Originally Posted by Elie

There is some truth about this thread, but not all. I remember a time when sailor where doubtfull about furling sails, electric windlass, and light displacement.

Some of us still are, and prefer our vessels tested by the rigors of time, not just the number of bareboat charter berths and an advertising budget. Even catamarans (which even the most devout will admit had problems with seaworthiness not too many years ago) are now divisible into categories not unlike those of monos (folks, I am not discussing comfort and speed alone) as far as sea worthy, or not, in places when the sledding has become tough.

Me, if I am going to be caught where I do not want to be, I much prefer it be in a boat in which I can be hove to as a solo, still manage the sails on both masts until they are furled and bagged, and have a reasonable expectation/hope she will right herself and the leaks will be relatively minor if things go in the dumper and I have prepared well, providing there is the right blend of luck and competence. No, I am not against an electric windlass, or even furling head sails, but I do not like light displacement unless I was racing, which I no longer even think about except one on one against a similar boat.

[akprb]

Check out "catamaran storm tactics" on blog.

I had a Crealock Dreadnaught 32 and a Hans Christian 43. Did the "heavy time". Rather than wait out the front passage hove to I'll just as soon sail with it/out run it.

As to SSB even in 05 our sat phone was more useful.

We used the SSB for the net but most of us were emailing each other even back then.

Times are a changing ;-)

(Still carry my sextent, tables and paper, just in case)

[buzzstar]

Originally Posted by akprb

Check out "catamaran storm tactics" on blog.

I had a Crealock Dreadnaught 32 and a Hans Christian 43. Did the "heavy time". Rather than wait out the front passage hove to I'll just as soon sail with it/out run it.

As to SSB even in 05 our sat phone was more useful.

We used the SSB for the net but most of us were emailing each other even back then.

Times are a changing ;-)

(Still carry my sextent, tables and paper, just in case)

Which hull number for the Dreadnought? I have an enhanced dated base on a crashed computer that I will someday recover, and would like to add/update the info. I cannot recall how many of the 83 hulls I had identified, but it was more than on the Yahoo group etc. or any place I could fine. Please include name (history if known), year, and rig, and who built out the hull if known, plus anything else you want to include (e.g. Saab engine- which most were -or). I am sure you know the drill. Thanks!

[Dulcesuenos]

Originally Posted by Guy

I don't know how you would be able to communacate. You can't use a phone on a cruiser net for example, you can't call for help, etc. An HF seems like basic equipment. And, if you pay $6K for an HF, you are getting screwed.

Delorme in reach, we were able to communicate, via email text, messages. Obtain weather, anywhere, and it worked flawlessly for us in 24 countries. 48 hour battery life, waterproof, and you can take it in a life raft. Kind of hard with a ssb, also iridium go, and even sat 0hones are easier and cheaper now

[akprb]

Mid 80s, that info long gone, single cylinder lister ;-)