Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Closed Thread
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-04-2014, 08:57   #376
Registered User
 
cwyckham's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: Niagara 35
Posts: 1,878
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Quite a few posts about the boat taking on water when motoring. They had a leaking packing gland which I believe was fixed. Let's remember that we haven't heard anything from them yet and don't even know if this is still an issue. Charlotte's sister is doing a great job as spokesman, but she isn't a sailor and may not have everything exactly right.
cwyckham is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 08:59   #377
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Ludlow Wa
Boat: Makela,Ingrid38,Idora
Posts: 2,050
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

If Eric concurs, that Reble Heart is in a condition to be saved it would be fabulous if she was found and sailed to safety. What a story! What an excellent cause! What a plus for CF! For cruisers the world over! To have the family saved and the boat as well might make the difference for them to try again and succeed.
IdoraKeeper is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:09   #378
Registered User
 
hoppy's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,844
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mknebes View Post
I was amazed when I saw it on Fox this morning. I couldn't believe it. Discussed the cost--are you kidding me?!? Please, I'd much rather tax $$ go to work for something like this than another golfing outing for man living in the White House or another trip for his wife.

The story has just gotten so big, I feel so sorry for them when they get back. Definitely send some $$ to help out, always amazed at how awesome the support is on this forum. You guys are great!

Monica
When I hear how much this or any search and rescue mission costs I always wonder what the cost is when they are not rescuing anyone. It's not as if the planes, Helicopters & ships are sitting at their home base when they are not rescuing someone and it's not like they are no paying for the crews to sit idle. It seems to me that everyone involved is getting invaluable real world training. I guess that sort of idea is not such an interesting angle for Fox to push
hoppy is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:20   #379
Registered User
 
Fiveslide's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Boat: JBW club 420, MFG Bandit, Snark
Posts: 871
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khagan1227 View Post


I was also tossing around if Eric should leave the boat hove to, on a sea anchor or sailing with a minimal amount of sail up and with the hydrovane steering a set course. I seem to remember someone else a few years back had to abandon and set his boat on a course where it was salvaged a few weeks later. Thoughts?
http://www.cruisingworld.com/news/th...of-bela-bartok

Indeed, it has been done. I hope, if conditions are right for it, that the idea occurs to Rebel Heart and that the Navy captain allows him the time to do it. It could make recovery so much easier and the distance to intercept her so much shorter.

Sent from my SCH-S738C using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
__________________
I love big boats and I can not lie.
Fiveslide is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:29   #380
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 5,986
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Frankly if his daughter is better now or at least out of harms way why wouldn't he simply sail the boat somewhere??
robert sailor is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:31   #381
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

My heart goes out to Charlotte, Eric, Cora and Lyra and I'm thrilled to see the forum has shut down the negative comments and are supporting this wonderful family my husband and I have come to admire so much. Char, we love you and wish only the best for you and your family!

I know there is a lot of speculation about what made Lyra sick and no one but the family or medical responders can answer that. I do know based on her previous blogs and FB posts that the samonella was before they left and had the doctor's all clear. Also, I know Charlotte and Eric are huge supporters of vaccinations, also based on her blog. I don't think the blog should be taken down...haters are always out there and removing it it would imply they have something to hide. Plus it could help address some of the speculation, such as suggesting they weren't responsible enough vaccinate their children.

Rebel Heart - Charlotte's Blog - Vaccinating your Baby in Mexico | Vaccines inÂ*Mexico
ThreeSheets is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:40   #382
Registered User
 
delmarrey's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Philippines in the winters
Boat: It’s in French Polynesia now
Posts: 11,368
Images: 122
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul L View Post
At least as far as measles is concerned (the only one I checked), Mexico has a higher rate of vaccination than the US. See Immunization, measles (% of children ages 12-23 months) | Data | Table
Before 1957 there was no MMR vaccine. So that leaves probably half of the population of the world questionable.
End of thread drift!
__________________
Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
The measure of a man is how he navigates to a proper shore in the midst of a storm!
delmarrey is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:44   #383
cruiser

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: New Iberia, LA
Boat: Alden 44
Posts: 202
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

I don't know where people are getting their info but the boat is not abandoned the USS Vadergrift is in enroute to pick them up all are on the boat including the medics that were dropped in.
satdiver is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:48   #384
Registered User
 
Fiveslide's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Boat: JBW club 420, MFG Bandit, Snark
Posts: 871
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Quote:
Originally Posted by satdiver View Post
I don't know where people are getting their info but the boat is not abandoned the USS Vadergrift is in enroute to pick them up all are on the boat including the medics that were dropped in.
It came from Charlotte's sister. The boat will be abandoned when that rendevous occurs.

Sent from my SCH-S738C using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
__________________
I love big boats and I can not lie.
Fiveslide is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:48   #385
cruiser

Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 398
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

I believe it was reported that Eric was going to abandon it and the navy informed him they could take only what they could carry.
Horror Hotel is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 09:53   #386
Registered User
 
Cormorant's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Catskill Mountains when not cruising
Boat: 31' homebuilt Michalak-designed Cormorant "Sea Fever"
Posts: 2,114
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

It's been reported that the whole Kaufman family has boarded the Vandergrift.

Plus this:
"They will not sink the Rebel Heart; instead, they will tag it and let it float along."

[from the article below the video in this link]

Stranded Family With Sick Baby Boards Navy Rescue Ship | NBC 7 San Diego
Cormorant is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 10:11   #387
Registered User
 
MBLittle's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: St Thomas, USVI
Posts: 542
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Quote:
Originally Posted by robert sailor View Post
Frankly if his daughter is better now or at least out of harms way why wouldn't he simply sail the boat somewhere??
My wife said the same comment. "That's our home. If our daughter is going to be fine I'll take care of her. Bring us back our home"

Sent from my LG-E980 using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
MBLittle is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 10:21   #388
Registered User
 
montenido's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Lying La Paz, BCS
Boat: 1991 Californian 52CPMY
Posts: 401
Images: 4
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Hi folks,

I had the pleasure of making Eric and Charlotte's acquaintance on the dock at Marina De La Paz. They are great and friendly folks, and their daughters are lovely and energetic. It has been said already, but you guys have done everything right in very trying circumstances.

I'm glad to hear the medical issue is being dealt with, and I hope you are able to recover your fine boat/home. I hope your skins are thick, as I just sampled some of the comments on your blog by the couch riders of our fair land. Pay them no mind, as they will never know what they have missed in life.

Wishing you all the best, and hope to cross paths with you again soon.

Cheers, Bill
__________________
M/V Ansedonia
'91 Californian 52 CPMY
Lying La Paz, BCS, Mexico
montenido is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 10:22   #389
Registered User
 
MBLittle's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: St Thomas, USVI
Posts: 542
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

Serious question. I see the media taking liberties with quoting blog posts on RH's website. Aren't those posts considered intellectual copyrights? Are media allowed to quote from a website without permission?

Sent from my LG-E980 using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
MBLittle is offline  
Old 06-04-2014, 10:24   #390
cruiser

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: New Iberia, LA
Boat: Alden 44
Posts: 202
Re: Forum Member's boat and daughter in trouble off of Mexico

I hope they have good insurance. At 900 miles out I'm afraid a proper salvage operation would exceed the value of the vessel especially if the boat is disabled.
satdiver is offline  
Closed Thread

Tags
crew, member, Mexico, rescue, rum, mexico


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 21:00.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.