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Old 12-05-2014, 07:27   #541
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How about a steel cat? any? seems cheaper to make.
Be even cheaper to just steal one....
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Old 12-05-2014, 07:32   #542
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Been discussed on CF for well over week. Lets get the facts correct not hearsay. Nearly 2 weeks now.
Vessel was abandoned not sunk. I believe the reason for water ingress is unknown at this time. Numerous possibilities.

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For well over the week? The accident happened 8 days ago and they were rescued the boat was almost sunk. They say the boat sunk.

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Do you have any other source that says the opposite?

This is only relevant because some on this thread made a big fuss about catamarans being unsinkable. Here you have another, also on the last days in Sardinia. It sunk on low waters and was kept floating (barely) with floaters while being towed to a beach.





Yes when everything works fine they are maintained afloat by air or foam chambers (like some monohulls) unfortunately things don't go always as expected and those chambers can be breached.
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

Combining posts do steel cats float?
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

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For well over the week? The accident happened 8 days ago and they were rescued the boat was almost sunk. They say the boat sunk.

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Do you have any other source that says the opposite?

This is only relevant because some on this thread made a big fuss about catamarans being unsinkable. Here you have another, also on the last days in Sardinia. It sunk on low waters and was kept floating (barely) with floaters while being towed to a beach.





Yes when everything works fine they are maintained afloat by air or foam chambers (like some monohulls) unfortunately things don't go always as expected and those chambers can be breached.


That's a good half a dozen Lagoons that have sunk in the last year!
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

Maybe we should start a new thread titled 'Do Lagoon Owners Ever Go Back'
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

I met a couple in La Paz that went from Cat to Mono. They originally bought the Cat due to it's realestate. They switch because...
1) They were embarrassed by the sterile, plastic feeling of its interior.
2) Double the cost of engine maintenance.
3) Double the cost of berthing
4) Climbing up and down constantly in and out of the hulls.
5) Apparently, stressed out chainplates.
6) Water slamming under their bridge deck.
7) They now enjoy the gentle movement at the dock with their mono.
8) Their Mono's wood interior is warm and inviting.

I guess it's to each his own. Frankly, I'd rather go to a power boat from my Mono. The cats I've seen seem to motor a lot anyways.
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

Since we are beating up on Lagoons I came upon this one a year or so ago in Chatham Bay on Union Island.
In defense of the boat cannot rule out stupidity and possible insurance scams on part of the owners regarding these particular vessels.Click image for larger version

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I met a couple in La Paz that went from Cat to Mono. They originally bought the Cat due to it's realestate. They switch because...
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4) Climbing up and down constantly in and out of the hulls.
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8) Their Mono's wood interior is warm and inviting.

I guess it's to each his own. Frankly, I'd rather go to a power boat from my Mono. The cats I've seen seem to motor a lot anyways.
Just wondering how they got to their mono's wood interior without climbing down and how they got to the cockpit without climbing up.

Do they have an elevator.
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Since we are beating up on Lagoons I came upon this one a year or so ago in Chatham Bay on Union Island.
In defense of the boat cannot rule out stupidity and possible insurance scams on part of the owners regarding these particular vessels.Attachment 81035
You may be right.
However, there does seem to be a trend of Lagoon involvement.
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

Its a lot of money to have on Hire Purchase, As a Luxury Item,
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I met a couple in La Paz that went from Cat to Mono. They originally bought the Cat due to it's realestate. They switch because...
1) They were embarrassed by the sterile, plastic feeling of its interior.
2) Double the cost of engine maintenance.
3) Double the cost of berthing
4) Climbing up and down constantly in and out of the hulls.
5) Apparently, stressed out chainplates.
6) Water slamming under their bridge deck.
7) They now enjoy the gentle movement at the dock with their mono.
8) Their Mono's wood interior is warm and inviting.
  1. embarrassed? Check the bloody thing before you buy it!
  2. Double anything always cost more.........
  3. Sigh... check the cost BEFORE buying anything.... thats why Im looking below 36 feet
  4. I have fallen down and been too tired to climb up the Westerly Taurus at times.......... as opposed to gentle steps to the hull in a catamaran.... SEE PIC BELOW
  5. Apparently
  6. It does that.
  7. ......... er............ ok. (sarcasm)
  8. ......... er............ ok. (sarcasm)


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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

We don't have double the maintenance costs on our engines. When motoring for more than simply dropping or picking up anchor, we only run one engine. The maintenance costs over time are exactly the same as a boat with a single engine. Yes, I have to put out double the money at maintenance time, but the time between maintenance is twice as long.

I can understand not enjoying a certain type of interior finishing, but actually being embarrassed by it? Sounds like that word was specifically chosen by you to hide some envy.. BTW, there are lots of catamarans out there with luscious wood interiors. Did your friends actually see the boat before they bought it? The interior finishing isn't one of those "gotchas" hiding in wait that you don't discover until long after you buy a boat.

As for #7, I guess they also now enjoy rolling at anchor too?

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I met a couple in La Paz that went from Cat to Mono. They originally bought the Cat due to it's realestate. They switch because...
1) They were embarrassed by the sterile, plastic feeling of its interior.
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5) Apparently, stressed out chainplates.
6) Water slamming under their bridge deck.
1. Plasticy interiors suck, I understand them very well! Fortunately new cats (and some older ones too) have nice interiors.
5. I will definitely order heavily reinforced chainplates when ordering a build of a cat, I have been thinking about it, looks like it does make sense.
6. I wonder if using vibration absorption materials and sound insulation would improve irritation from slamming....
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6. I wonder if using vibration absorption materials and sound insulation would improve irritation from slamming....
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its only in certain conditions and a small degree angle change usually lessens it.
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6. I wonder if using vibration absorption materials and sound insulation would improve irritation from slamming....
Slamming occurs when waves hit the bridge deck or hulls at a bad angle. Since only multihulls have bridge decks only multihulls can get slammed by waves hitting the bridge deck.

But both monohulls and multihulls can get by slammed by waves hitting a hull. I have always found the best solution to slamming is to alter the course of the boat till slamming abates, be one be on a monohull or multihull.

Of course I am not a delivery capt forced to make passages in a bad weather window or a noobie who does not know the meaning of a weather window.
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