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Old 29-08-2013, 11:54   #46
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Re: 12vdc generators - any good ones out there?

The Honda EU20i can be easily converted to run off LPG, that would be gas gas as we also have petrol here, not gasoline LOL
Though that may be safer than petrol/gasoline, carrying extra cylinders of LPG is a big contra.
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The big disadvantage of teh Hondas, is

(a) You have to carrying considerable amounts of petrol

(b) As you really have to run them out in the open, they are much louder then conventional marine gensets. They really annoy me in anchorages, especially when reving up from idle to take the load.

useful as an occasional standby, but that its in my view

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hmmm... the Honda 2000i I've heard is so quiet sometimes I couldnt tell if it was running..... ? It wasnt doing max output though.....
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Old 29-08-2013, 11:55   #48
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we go a little further back then the 1600s
And we are all waiting for you up to catch up to the 21st Century.
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Old 29-08-2013, 12:01   #49
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hmmm... the Honda 2000i I've heard is so quiet sometimes I couldnt tell if it was running..... ? It wasnt doing max output though.....
I have heard both opinions as well. It's on my list to buy one and I will be cranking it up while I'm sitting next to it to decide for myself.

It sounds a lot like the controversy over the the Air Breeze wind charger. Some people say it ain't bad, some say it sounds like a weed whacker. I have one in a box ready to install so I sure hope my experience is the former. I do have to confess I rowed by an anchored boat a couple of weeks ago that had an old model Air Breeze. A little gust came by and and when the blades started spinning it did sound like a weed whacker.
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Re: 12vdc generators - any good ones out there?

Here's one story; I play in a Blues Band. for a couple of years we played a summer party down by the river. No power so they rented a big gen set the first year. The second year we get all set up on the big 40 ft trailer and I cant find the gen set. I talk to the "powers that be" and they say "it's right there"... I'm literally standing next to it and it's running. The little 2000i powered the whole band for 4 hours and never needed gas!
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here Ive used the EU10i, 20i and even the 30i Honda units. Great reliable , good workhorses, Thirsty if loaded. But all that reving up and down, I dont regard them as quiet

Friend of mine has a EU65is, havent seen it yet , will see it next week , 6500 W at 230VAC inverter based!!!
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The big disadvantage of teh Hondas, is

(a) You have to carrying considerable amounts of petrol

(b) As you really have to run them out in the open, they are much louder then conventional marine gensets. They really annoy me in anchorages, especially when reving up from idle to take the load.

useful as an occasional standby, but that its in my view

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Common fuel with the dink, so no big deal. If the little hondas annoy you, wait till you hear an open frame generator go off on someones afterdeck. The sound pressure is probably 10x, and a harsher tone, too.
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Common fuel with the dink, so no big deal. If the little hondas annoy you, wait till you hear an open frame generator go off on someones afterdeck. The sound pressure is probably 10x, and a harsher tone, too.
thats when I really miss my friend Mr. Mossberg.

fuel for dink I carry in a 25 litre plastic tank, Hondas eat quite a bit of fuel in my experience.

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thats when I really miss my friend Mr. Mossberg.

fuel for dink I carry in a 25 litre plastic tank, Hondas eat quite a bit of fuel in my experience.

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What? Why you're an Englishman, an European, you're supposed to be fully socialized, what, violence out of some minor annoyance like someone with a loud generator?! You sound like one of those American troglodytes. You're supposed to be writing petitions to the European Commission, not taking matters into your own hands. Anyway, what's wrong with Mr. Holland and Mr. Holland, eh? Mossberg - it's so - declasse.

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Hollande ( with an e, ignorant foreigner).

It may suprise you , but us Europeans over this side have a far bigger track record for collectively reaching for a Mossberg, then almost anywhere else on the planet. !!

The jodhpurs are only for show you know,

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Hollande ( with an e, ignorant foreigner).

It may suprise you , but us Europeans over this side have a far bigger track record for collectively reaching for a Mossberg, then almost anywhere else on the planet. !!

The jodhpurs are only for show you know,

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Ah, yes, sorry, forgot the bit of unpleasantness in 1939-45, as an example. True, you Euro guys can slaughter people with the best of us. Respect.

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Here's one story; I play in a Blues Band. for a couple of years we played a summer party down by the river. No power so they rented a big gen set the first year. The second year we get all set up on the big 40 ft trailer and I cant find the gen set. I talk to the "powers that be" and they say "it's right there"... I'm literally standing next to it and it's running. The little 2000i powered the whole band for 4 hours and never needed gas!
Bet they weren't using a giant stack of Marshalls for the PA. I'm thinking that would choke a 2000i.

Of course your example is completely invalid anyway. If you play in a Blues Band how much hearing do you have left? Could you even hear the big gen set from the first year?
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I know that a lot of the portable 110/220vac generators out there also have a 12vdc output on them, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a small gas or diesel powered generator (or alternator) that puts out 12vdc only. I'm looking for something in the 50-100 amp range. The last time that I saw one of them was probably close to 20 years ago. Do they still exist anywhere in the US retail market? Has anyone used one lately? Can anyone give me some performance reports?

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What is the boat wired for? If the boat is wired for only 50 amps having a bigger gen is not the answer. For 50 amps all you need is a 6 or 8 kw. A 10 kw will produce 80 amps which are common. Also is there space and does of the boat the displacement for a large generator.
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Hollande ( with an e, ignorant foreigner).

It may suprise you , but us Europeans over this side have a far bigger track record for collectively reaching for a Mossberg, then almost anywhere else on the planet. !!

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This is getting funnier than the joke thread.
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This is getting funnier than the joke thread.
Im going for the "greatest thread drift ever" award. Gennerators to jodhpurs must be up there,

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