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Old 10-10-2017, 05:05   #1
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Interior

Hi All
I have just discovered an issue that has been a while building.

The Owners cabin shower area is poorly sealed.

The timber insert in the floor of the vanity area is "sealed" with a sealant around the edges but this is clearly not adequate.
Water has been getting down past the Sika seal and collecting in a gutter around the outside of the F/G insert module. This gutter conveniently distributes the water all the way around the ply panel allowing the water to get to all the edges! When it is full the water will start oozing between the Ply panel and the f/g insert module. At this stage you will see it as a wet brown stain.
I generally only check the low point in the bilge for water so I only discovered this when the musty smell became noticeable.

Now for the "good" news - the ply panel is glued down to the f/g. It took a lot of work with a "hobby" knife blade and a sharpened hacksaw blade to cut through the glue underneath. The edge sealant was quite easily removed, possibly because it had not been applied that well!

We managed to lift the floor panel without having to remove the s/steel floor joint or shower screen panels but it was a close thing and they should really be removed making it a much bigger job.
I did have to remove the shower door and vanity cupboard door.

Unless they have done a much better job with the sealant on your Lucia this is likely to develop as an issue. Water squeezing out from under the floor insert is the first sign but by then there is a whole lot more water under the floor!
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Old 27-11-2017, 11:25   #2
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Re: Interior

Thanks for the heads up on this MKB53. We noticed a good puddle of water on the wrong side of the door each time we used the shower. A quick order from amazon seems to have solved 99% of the water that makes it under the door. Just a small drop or too on the hinge side which I may fix with a fillet of silicone.

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Old 27-11-2017, 13:56   #3
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I fitted a similar sealing strip under the door and side panel which was quite good at stopping flow under the door. Only after a few months on board though.

I think the water was getting through hard up against the outer side of the fixed panel where the sealing strip did not reach and there was a small gap. It then trickled down along the base of the vanity fitting where the application of the Sika sealant was at its worst. We had completed 2 seasons of 6 months odd when it became apparent.

Perhaps you have done a better job with the sealing strip than we did!

I am planning to rig a drain from the ring channel to the shower sump pump as a "fail safe" in case we get further leaks. That would minimise the damage. I have not investigated this fully but it seems easy at first sight.
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Old 27-11-2017, 14:44   #4
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Yeah, or at least some weep holes in the bottom of that channel so that any water that does make it thru can at least drain into the bilge.

Again, thanks for discovering this because it prompted us to remedy sooner than later.
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Old 30-11-2017, 05:44   #5
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Yeah, or at least some weep holes in the bottom of that channel so that any water that does make it thru can at least drain into the bilge.

Again, thanks for discovering this because it prompted us to remedy sooner than later.
Yeap !
I'll give a closer look next time aboard !
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Old 11-12-2017, 04:47   #6
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Another little improvment...
some lights over the main panel control.
led light is controlled by the "hull light " control switch.
Can be or warm white or red.

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Old 12-12-2017, 04:13   #7
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Does anybody know if FP is addressing this issue? It seems they would want to take care of any problem that involves water weeping in the boat.

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Old 13-12-2017, 02:46   #8
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I like the idea of the light on the electrical panel. I have frequently had to get a portable light to read the switches. Will be added to my to do list.

I know I should remember which is which but I have turned the freezer off by accident once.
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On One Day More, we reprinted the names of each of the switches in larger fonts on adhesive printing tape. This made it easier to read day or night!
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