Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 27-04-2017, 02:36   #31
Moderator
 
Dockhead's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The boat: Cowes (Winter), Above 60N (Summer); me: somewhere in the air!
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 23,514
Re: Anchoring By The Stern

Quote:
Originally Posted by Don C L View Post
I have little doubt that anchoring by the stern will make a well behaved boat. I just would never be comfortable with the rudder now pushed out there on the bow pointing the wrong direction on a rough day. If you are sure the rudder is safe from being slammed back, perhaps using a rudder lock, and you don't mind the slapping and the splashes and spray into the cockpit then I guess its ok. Not my first choice. And this is coming from someone who regularly anchors bow and stern, in fairly small protected coves, and occasionally my stern will face a brisk night wind but not an onslaught of swell too. If I do by some chance, I wake up move the bow line to the stern and vice versa and go back to bed. My stern anchor is big enough to act as bow when needed. And yes you have to lay out a boat length of both anchor rodes on deck to do that, but it's not that hard.
Wave action will affect the stern more than the bow, excluding double enders etc. But we shouldn't be anchored anywhere where there is much wave action anyway.

I would be much more concerned in a storm, with the weather being driven into the cockpit, companionway, etc.

I use a springline to tame yawing at anchor, on the rare occasions when I have this problem. Much simpler than a drogue and much less risk of tangling etc.

Principle of a springline is that you make the wind see the centers of pressure and lateral resistance not in an unstable line, but spread out, so that a constant force is exerted trying to blow the bow around, in one direction, without the oscillations. It works!!
__________________

Dockhead is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2017, 18:54   #32
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 15,130
Re: Anchoring By The Stern

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dockhead View Post
Wave action will affect the stern more than the bow, excluding double enders etc. But we shouldn't be anchored anywhere where there is much wave action anyway.

I would be much more concerned in a storm, with the weather being driven into the cockpit, companionway, etc.

I use a springline to tame yawing at anchor, on the rare occasions when I have this problem. Much simpler than a drogue and much less risk of tangling etc.

Principle of a springline is that you make the wind see the centers of pressure and lateral resistance not in an unstable line, but spread out, so that a constant force is exerted trying to blow the bow around, in one direction, without the oscillations. It works!!
You're absolutely correct, it works well, and is much simpler to get away from than some other ways of accomplishing the goal. It's great when the wind isn't too shifty.

If you have wind coming at you strongly from both sides of a hill, the "V" has worked better, for our boat, with its fine entry.

I realize this comment leaves me open for the charge of old fogeyism, but I would not even consider anchoring by the stern, except if someone were going to be going "spinnaker flyiing."

Ann
__________________

__________________
Who scorns the calm has forgotten the storm.
JPA Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2017, 19:12   #33
Moderator
 
Don C L's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 6,629
Images: 42
Re: Anchoring By The Stern

Old fogeyism is a good thing, right?
__________________
DL
Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
Don C L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2017, 19:32   #34
Marine Service Provider
 
boatpoker's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
Posts: 3,561
Re: Anchoring By The Stern

The feather analogy in the article makes some sense to me however I believe there is an easier way of achieving the same end
.... an "anchoring" sail.
i.e. a main sail with a very short luff, say 3-4'.

I was already planning to try this on DIRT FREE as she sails around quite a bit at anchor. When we pick her up in Florida this fall she will be sporting such a sail.
__________________
That hysterical laughter you hear as you sail a way in your "new" boat ..... is the seller.
boatpoker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 28-04-2017, 07:19   #35
Registered User
 
denverd0n's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 4,313
Images: 6
Re: Anchoring By The Stern

Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot View Post
However I am with CaptTom on this, pointy end of the boat is designed to take the weather, not the flat stern.
However maybe if both ends are pointy?
This ^^^^^^^

If you have a canoe stern, great. But think about some of the newer cruising boats with VERY wide, and VERY flat sterns. Now imagine serious wind and waves pounding against that stern. Does not seem like a good situation at all to me.

So, my conclusion is that -- as with most things -- the right answer here is "it depends." It depends on the design of your boat whether anchoring by the stern, or by the bow, is a better idea.
__________________

denverd0n is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
anchor, anchoring

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
By a show of hands; Stern Anchoring? Sailor Robius Anchoring & Mooring 34 10-02-2014 05:17
Bow & Stern Anchoring is the Best! sww914 Anchoring & Mooring 14 03-02-2014 12:36
Stern Anchoring/ Bluewater Coastal Cruiser mstrgs Anchoring & Mooring 7 06-06-2012 18:09
Anchoring Stern-to in a Storm Dockhead Anchoring & Mooring 54 24-08-2011 09:02
anchoring by the stern. rtbates Seamanship & Boat Handling 25 18-02-2007 00:38



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:40.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.