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Old 04-03-2013, 14:06   #241
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Re: Pirates operating in Southern Ocean........

I have been going up and down the east coast here since 1974, both by land and sea, and have never come across a shark carcass at any time. Not saying that it does not happen, but obviously not on the scale as suggested and has been evidenced elsewhere.

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I love the way some people on this forum are able to judge weather or not something posted is true or not well if that [post i put up was baseless im afraid your wrong because i spent over a year on various surface and bottom longlines up and down the east of oz and saw it first hand, yes certain sharks were fully used for flake for the fish and chip shops but most of what i saw were thrown back in the water and not used
And what did you do about it?
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Old 04-03-2013, 14:14   #243
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Re: Pirates operating in Southern Ocean........

COOPS most of the longliners that are catching these sharks are dumping them back in deep water and not much chance of them washing up ashore , ye have a continental shelf thats very close to land so ye have deep water not far of the coast . where as up our side of the world you need to go around 200 miles of before hitting real deep water
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And what did you do about it?
if i had my way every fish that was killed would be used but unfortunately when your onboard boats that arent yours its the skippers call, not much i could do about it
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Old 04-03-2013, 14:56   #245
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Re: Pirates operating in Southern Ocean........

Most every fisher tries not to waste anything. Sometimes due to the quota regulations perfectly good fish get wasted because they are not the targeted species, and the fishers get penalized for catching them. It is a big ocean and the different species are not in nice neat little slots to make it easy to catch them. If the whole shark can be utilized for its protein that would be a good thing.
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Ive been on so many boats over the years where we had to dump the best of fish back over the side because if we came ashore with more than our quota we would be arested and given huge fines, and the different government bodies are calling us criminals go figure
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Re: Pirates operating in Southern Ocean........

Here is what Tim Flannery reckons:


When, in the concluding chapters of The Future Eaters (1994), Flannery discusses how to "utilise our few renewable resources in the least destructive way", he remarks that
A far better situation for conservation in Australia would result from a policy which allows exploitation of all of our biotic heritage, provided that it all be done in a sustainable manner[I]. ... f it is possible to harvest for example, 10 mountain pygmy-possums (Burramys parvus) or 10 southern right whales (Balaena glacialis) per year, why should we not do it? ... Is it more moral to kill and consume a whale, without cost to the environment, than to live as a vegetarian in Australia, destroying seven kilograms of irreplaceable soil, ... for each kilogram of bread we consume?[31]In late 2007, Flannery suggested that the Japanese whaling involving the relatively common Minke Whale may be sustainable:
In terms of sustainability, you can't be sure that the Japanese whaling is entirely unsustainable... It's hard to imagine that the whaling would lead to a new decline in population[32]This raised concerns among some environmental groups such as Greenpeace,[33][34] fearing it could add fuel to the Japanese wish of continuing its annual cull.
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