Robertson vs Phillips headed screws

[Tillsbury]

Never heard the name Robertson before, I'm guessing that's a US thing? I moved from the UK to NZ twenty years ago, and square drive screws were much more prevalent here. Nowadays the building industry almost exclusively uses square drive (as do I), except for plasterboard which are still cross-head.

On my boat almost everything is Torx in the structure of the boat, except for third-party products and very small fixings which are usually cross-head of some sort, or Allen (hex).

Torx or square drive are my favourites. Allen/hex heads always seem to strip too easily, and are even more of a pain than cross-head when they do.

[svmariane]

Originally Posted by Tillsbury

Never heard the name Robertson before, I'm guessing that's a US thing?

As gently as I can, I'll suggest that you go back and read post #1 of this thread, Maybe watch the video. Then you'll know more.

Here:
https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ws-229830.html

[svmariane]

Originally Posted by skipmac

Amazing. This is exactly, step by step, the procedure I developed for redoing my stanchions. So which languages did you curse in? I prefer English, Spanish and Greek with occasional French and German for variety.

Yeah, German, English, some Russian. But when my wife is within hearing distance she'll usually get on about watching my language. So I switch to using what I learned from the best curser I've ever heard: Yosemite Sam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2B8O8lIFX8

[Dennis.G]

Originally Posted by Tillsbury

Never heard the name Robertson before, I'm guessing that's a US thing? ...

Canadian thing really.

Frankly I find that Torx is becoming the new standard, at least in automotive and general construction fasteners.

Philips head screws when first introduced considered their tendency to cam out as a positive feature as manufacturers were using power drivers but torque clutches on power drivers were not yet invented.

[sailasia]

I only used Frearson on my old wooden boat. Much more torque can be applied.

[jimbunyard]

Well, since my problem with most, except (mostly) torx (after being spun in and out a few times, at off angles, buried in wood, driven or drawn when half-filled [or is that half-emptied]) is cam out, I offer, in addition to wikipedias probably-not-comprehensive list, my own no-cam-out, self-centering, grind-your-own-driver head type. Manufacturers wanted.

[Glenn C]

would now be a good time to talk about plough anchors.....

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by jimbunyard

Well, since my problem with most, except (mostly) torx (after being spun in and out a few times, at off angles, buried in wood, driven or drawn when half-filled [or is that half-emptied]) is cam out, I offer, in addition to wikipedias probably-not-comprehensive list, my own no-cam-out, self-centering, grind-your-own-driver head type. Manufacturers wanted.

Ahh... the Jimbunyard screw.

To all readers - you will remember where you were today when you saw it on CF first (such a true world leader in social media).

[groundtackle]

Originally Posted by Dennis.G

Canadian thing really.

Frankly I find that Torx is becoming the new standard, at least in automotive and general construction fasteners.

Philips head screws when first introduced considered their tendency to cam out as a positive feature as manufacturers were using power drivers but torque clutches on power drivers were not yet invented.

DG, yes this, it fits too good. They tried everything to remove but even the wiggle is not 100% effective, this is our life in Canada now.
I can't imagine holding 5/8" x 16' sheetrock overhead with philips, I'm throwing up as I write this.
We all wonder why they force this torx thing at us when robertson is just fine.
Chris