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12-02-2020, 13:00
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Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: New Zealand
Boat: 50’ Bavaria
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
Never heard the name Robertson before, I'm guessing that's a US thing? I moved from the UK to NZ twenty years ago, and square drive screws were much more prevalent here. Nowadays the building industry almost exclusively uses square drive (as do I), except for plasterboard which are still cross-head.
On my boat almost everything is Torx in the structure of the boat, except for third-party products and very small fixings which are usually cross-head of some sort, or Allen (hex).
Torx or square drive are my favourites. Allen/hex heads always seem to strip too easily, and are even more of a pain than cross-head when they do.
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12-02-2020, 13:59
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#77
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On the hard due to wife's medical condition.
Boat: Sold, alas, because life happens.
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
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Originally Posted by Tillsbury
Never heard the name Robertson before, I'm guessing that's a US thing?
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As gently as I can, I'll suggest that you go back and read post #1 of this thread, Maybe watch the video. Then you'll know more.
Here:
https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ws-229830.html
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12-02-2020, 14:11
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#78
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Location: On the hard due to wife's medical condition.
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
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Originally Posted by skipmac
Amazing. This is exactly, step by step, the procedure I developed for redoing my stanchions. So which languages did you curse in? I prefer English, Spanish and Greek with occasional French and German for variety.
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Yeah, German, English, some Russian. But when my wife is within hearing distance she'll usually get on about watching my language. So I switch to using what I learned from the best curser I've ever heard: Yosemite Sam.
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12-02-2020, 16:29
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#79
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Sea of Cortez and the U.P. of Michigan
Boat: Celestial 48
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
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Originally Posted by Tillsbury
Never heard the name Robertson before, I'm guessing that's a US thing? ...
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Canadian thing really.
Frankly I find that Torx is becoming the new standard, at least in automotive and general construction fasteners.
Philips head screws when first introduced considered their tendency to cam out as a positive feature as manufacturers were using power drivers but torque clutches on power drivers were not yet invented.
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12-02-2020, 16:52
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#80
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 48
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
I only used Frearson on my old wooden boat. Much more torque can be applied.
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12-02-2020, 22:05
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#81
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Slidell, La.
Boat: Morgan Classic 33
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
Well, since my problem with most, except (mostly) torx (after being spun in and out a few times, at off angles, buried in wood, driven or drawn when half-filled [or is that half-emptied]) is cam out, I offer, in addition to wikipedias probably-not-comprehensive list, my own no-cam-out, self-centering, grind-your-own-driver head type. Manufacturers wanted.
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12-02-2020, 22:55
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#82
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Brisbane
Boat: Lightwave 45, sold nov 2020.Previous self built Roberts 36
Posts: 222
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
would now be a good time to talk about plough anchors.....
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12-02-2020, 23:23
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#83
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: C.L.O.D.
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
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Originally Posted by jimbunyard
Well, since my problem with most, except (mostly) torx (after being spun in and out a few times, at off angles, buried in wood, driven or drawn when half-filled [or is that half-emptied]) is cam out, I offer, in addition to wikipedias probably-not-comprehensive list, my own no-cam-out, self-centering, grind-your-own-driver head type. Manufacturers wanted.
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Ahh... the Jimbunyard screw.
To all readers - you will remember where you were today when you saw it on CF first (such a true world leader in social media).
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13-02-2020, 05:52
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#84
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Victoria BC
Boat: Cal 2-46'
Posts: 673
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Re: Robertson vs Phillips headed screws
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Originally Posted by Dennis.G
Canadian thing really.
Frankly I find that Torx is becoming the new standard, at least in automotive and general construction fasteners.
Philips head screws when first introduced considered their tendency to cam out as a positive feature as manufacturers were using power drivers but torque clutches on power drivers were not yet invented.
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DG, yes this, it fits too good. They tried everything to remove but even the wiggle is not 100% effective, this is our life in Canada now.
I can't imagine holding 5/8" x 16' sheetrock overhead with philips, I'm throwing up as I write this.
We all wonder why they force this torx thing at us when robertson is just fine.
Chris
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