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15-03-2021, 08:32
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
Posts: 12,225
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Literally everything melts here.
You would think putting a little bit of foam insulation in the window could slow down the heat coming into the boat. Seems like a reasonable temporary solution right? Not in Florida!
This is the result after a few hours in the window.
The foam MELTED!!!
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15-03-2021, 10:22
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 51,593
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
New study shows bodies found from the Bermuda Triangle all died from heat exhaustion...
... Everyone knows its 180 degrees inside a triangle, so why would people even bother to travel through it?
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15-03-2021, 10:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Rochester, NY
Boat: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Posts: 6,909
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Might need to use foil faced insulation so it reflects more of the sun and absorbs less heat. Or it might be time to get that boat ready for a trip north!
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15-03-2021, 10:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2018
Boat: Voyage 430
Posts: 401
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Put a tarp over the deck and windows. It makes a huge difference.
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15-03-2021, 10:53
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: LI Sound
Boat: Sabre 34
Posts: 946
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
... Everyone knows its 180 degrees inside a triangle, so why would people even bother to travel through it?
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Gord, that is one of the funniest things I have ever heard
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15-03-2021, 11:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 244
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
New study shows bodies found from the Bermuda Triangle all died from heat exhaustion...
... Everyone knows its 180 degrees inside a triangle, so why would people even bother to travel through it?
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Winner!
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15-03-2021, 14:14
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
i second the tarp idea--even screen tarps are a goood temperature diminisher. try it.
ps itis hotter here than in fla... we all use tarps, even the ocd sailors use tarps to cool interiors and decks.
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15-03-2021, 15:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
Boat: FP Belize Maestro 43 and OPBs
Posts: 12,891
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chotu
You would think putting a little bit of foam insulation in the window could slow down the heat coming into the boat. Seems like a reasonable temporary solution right? Not in Florida!
This is the result after a few hours in the window.
The foam MELTED!!!
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So where did you expect the solar radiation absorbed by that foam to go?
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15-03-2021, 16:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Bush Alaska
Boat: Bateau FS17
Posts: 220
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
A co-worker has been playing around with diy solar water heaters.
He had a new setup he tested this last Saturday, just a simple wooden box lined with foam (and I assume some sort of reflectors, I didn't see it) with plastic pex looped in it with a glass face. His glycol ratio wasn't strong enough and he boiled the water and burst the pipes and cracked the glass before he could figure out the air lock issues with his circulating pump.
So the sun was enough to boil glycol mixed water and burst plastic pex which is pretty flexible.
The punchline? It was -2 to -9 degrees F all day.
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15-03-2021, 16:56
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Florida, Off the Caloosahatchee Canal for the Summer
Boat: Beebe Passagemaker 50'
Posts: 892
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rslifkin
Might need to use foil faced insulation so it reflects more of the sun and absorbs less heat. Or it might be time to get that boat ready for a trip north!
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On our RV, we use the shiny bubble wrap. Going on 6 years now, and looks just it was when we first installed it! It make A MARKED difference in how hard the AC units had to work. And just as long as we kept the two front bottom corners of the insulation folded up in the front windshield, no issues with the cats . . .
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15-03-2021, 17:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Minnesota, USA
Boat: Southwind 21 et al.
Posts: 1,796
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Polystyrene foam starts to give up at about 160F /70 C.
Here is a chart from CPS (Endurance/MAS) that compares body color to heat rise per ambient temp. Wondering if some white latex paint would help?
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15-03-2021, 18:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
Posts: 4,145
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
New study shows bodies found from the Bermuda Triangle all died from heat exhaustion...
... Everyone knows its 180 degrees inside a triangle, so why would people even bother to travel through it?
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I wasn't aware of that. (Is that Fahrenheit or Centigrade?)
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15-03-2021, 18:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Australia
Boat: Milkraft 60 ex trawler
Posts: 4,651
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Reflective foil tint
Bounces a lot of heat out
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15-03-2021, 18:44
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
Posts: 12,225
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spot
Polystyrene foam starts to give up at about 160F /70 C.
Here is a chart from CPS (Endurance/MAS) that compares body color to heat rise per ambient temp. Wondering if some white latex paint would help?
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And that’s that I find so incredibly mind boggling.
No wonder I had so much trouble with the dow 795 and 3m VHb approach.
I’m dealing with a 100 degree temperature differential over the course of a few hours.
Until I got the tracks on to let the polycarbonate move all around as it pleases, I can see why the windows were all popping off.
I’ve been using this insulation all my life and my mind is absolutely blown it can melt.
Is reflective silver foil or white better by the way?
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15-03-2021, 18:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
Posts: 12,225
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Re: Literally everything melts here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeehag
i second the tarp idea--even screen tarps are a goood temperature diminisher. try it.
ps itis hotter here than in fla... we all use tarps, even the ocd sailors use tarps to cool interiors and decks.
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I would, but there is a limitation.
My brand new windows are polycarbonate and a rubbing tarp will scratch them. That’s why I’m doing the protection from the inside.
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