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Old 04-12-2020, 19:19   #1
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Hello All,

My sailing experience is limited to dinghies on lakes/bays and some regatta crewing with no real training. As a younger man I also spent several winters commercial fishing in the Bering Sea on large trawlers, adventures I enjoyed and sea sickness was never an issue.

My question to the community is this: Of all the sail training programs available are there any particular ones a cruising skipper would prefer their potential crew member had studied under? Is the RYC program better suited to offshore cruising than the ASA?

My immediate goal is to complete ASA 101 through 104 and look for a berth on a sailboat making some passages to log miles and put theory to its application.

I am a healthy and fit mature 65 yo male, able to pay my own way, mechanical, journeyman fabrication skills, a good cook and reliable.

Your input will be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 05-12-2020, 08:01   #2
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I would prefer someone who had done the RYA (it's RYA, stands for Royal Yachting Association) which is international - as opposed to ASA which is US.

But then, I AM biased - as I only ever did one ASA course - oh, basically 100 years ago (the 1980's) and all of my training after that was RYA - so you can see where my bias originates.

I understand that the ASA certs have improved immensely since the 80's, but then, I've only heard that from Americans - which is a bit of a confirmation bias in itself.

Have I confused you enough yet?

At the very least you're on the right track, getting some training, no matter what the school.

Or - you might execute part of your ASA plan and then hop. Here's a recent Crew Wanted thread that might be a good fit for you: https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...-a-242841.html

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RYA Yachtmaster is the gold standard
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I did RYA dayskipper with ICC certification. It was amazing! Most of the education was online through Nauticed.org, with an onboard 3 day practicum after all of my coursework was completed. I truly thought I knew how to sail prior to doing this coursework. This expanded my knowledge and capabilities beyond anything I could have thought. I have my eye on the Yacht-Master certificate.
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I truly thought I knew how to sail prior to doing this coursework. This expanded my knowledge and capabilities beyond anything I could have thought. I have my eye on the Yachtmaster certificate.
It's totally worth it.

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Old 06-12-2020, 15:10   #6
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Hello Again,

Thanks for the responses and suggestions. I responded to a couple of messages but not sure they went through- new to the site as active member and it seems a little clunky but I'll shake it out eventually.

The RYA course seems to be the preferred standard and I will look into it further down the line but my guess is getting some basics down via ASA might be a quicker route to get me up to speed and of relative value on a passage or three. ASA 101-104 should get me oriented and then Coastal/Passage Making/ more advanced Navigation course work through RYA should fill out the resume more properly. The 5-6 day live aboard ASA courses I've looked into are all booked out until Spring which suits my general schedule of lashing off the remaining lines for retirement and what lies ahead.
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Yojimbo,

Before you commit to ASA 101-104, take a look at NauticEd.org web site. There are many courses to choose from. The RYA is much more comprehensive and smoother than the ASA courses. I looked into both, and I picked RYA. The added benefit of doing RYA dayskipper is that you get your ICC as well, which I needed (had a Croatia charter planned, but postponed due to COVID-19). To charter in the Med, Adriatic or French polynesia, you need an ICC.

I have nothing to disclose regarding any involvement with NauticEd other than being a very satisfied student.

Best wishes for your journey!!!

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Good insight on the ICC requirement- didn't know that. I will be checking out the RYA program after learning this. Thanks.
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Yojimbo,

Have fun with your learning!!!!

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RYA Yachtmaster is the gold standard
I heard it from a time-served senior trainer that RYA provides a subset of what ASA provides in the syllabi for each level which basically overlap plus or minus little bits. I have not investigated further.

I only did ASA101,103,104,105 and docking appendix 117. Ive not done RYA.

I think it will mostly depend on the training quality and standards and the school delivery/execution.

In conclusion, whatever you stream you choose to certify through, the certification does not replace experience. Certification is only certification, to prove you know something, it may help in a blow, but experience is much more important.
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