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Old 28-07-2018, 18:28   #91
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Re: Over and out

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'And could/would you pick up a slab on your way back to the boat....?'

'Wilco'

Now... the requester said 'could' or 'would'... so it was a request....

If the requester had omitted the 'could' or the 'would' it would have been an instruction or order....
but nice try...
Give me an instance where Wilco is used as the request, rather than a response to a request; as "wilco picking a slab on your way back to the boat" or some such - just not done.

BTW and off topic, there is no difference between a request and an order other than the opportunity to refuse is greater in a request.
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but nice try...
Give me an instance where Wilco is used as the request, rather than a response to a request; as "wilco picking a slab on your way back to the boat" or some such - just not done.

BTW and off topic, there is no difference between a request and an order other than the opportunity to refuse is greater in a request.
How did that find its way into the mix?


No diff between request and order?

The worst that can happen if you refuse a request is that you are denied marital privileges for a spell...

Refuse to carry out an order and you could be taken out the back and shot... to encourage the others...
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Re: Over and out

My usual response to a radio request is "understood."
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Re: Over and out

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How did that find its way into the mix?


No diff between request and order?

The worst that can happen if you refuse a request is that you are denied marital privileges for a spell...

Refuse to carry out an order and you could be taken out the back and shot... to encourage the others...
Post #84! Try to stay with the programme


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Actually "Will Comply". More commonly in response to an instruction or order rather a request.

I agree the consequences of refusing an order is usually (always?) greater than refusing a request and I'm let to find an admiral who issues requests... YMMV
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Post #84! Try to stay with the programme





I agree the consequences of refusing an order is usually (always?) greater than refusing a request and I'm let to find an admiral who issues requests... YMMV
Ah... #84...I actually read that as 'Actually "Will Comply". More commonly in response to an instruction or order rather than in response too a request.

And besides I was responding to your.... '..... a case where it is used as a request' which I read as '...a case where it is used as a response to a request due to your initial correction to #83....viz.. '
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Actually "Will Comply". More commonly Always in response to an instruction or order rather a request.
There, I fixed it for ya

Now I will wait for someone to point out a case where it is used as a request!!!!'
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Re: Over and out

Roger that
Bludi complicated stuff, this radio coms; no wonder they use pro words.
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Re: Over and out

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'And could/would you pick up a slab on your way back to the boat....?'

'Wilco'

Now... the requester said 'could' or 'would'... so it was a request....

If the requester had omitted the 'could you' or the 'would you' it would have been an instruction or order....

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but nice try...
Give me an instance where Wilco is used as the request, rather than a response to a request; as "wilco picking a slab on your way back to the boat" or some such - just not done.

BTW and off topic, there is no difference between a request and an order other than the opportunity to refuse is greater in a request.

???? Give us an example where Wilco is used as an instruction or order, rather than a response.
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Re: Over and out

[QUOTE=El Pinguino;2684475]Ah... #84...I actually read that as 'Actually "Will Comply". More commonly in response to an instruction or order rather than in response too a request.

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Which was the intent.
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Ah... #84...I actually read that as 'Actually "Will Comply". More commonly in response to an instruction or order rather than in response too a request.

/QUOTE]


Which was the intent.
And I read it as " More commonly in response to an instruction or order rather as a request."

Far easier to add only one word (as) instead of four words (than in response too) in order to decipher Stu's original transmission especially as I'm sure Stu would not have used "than in response too"; possibly he might have used "than in response to" .
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Old 28-07-2018, 21:50   #101
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And I read it as " More commonly in response to an instruction or order rather as a request."

Far easier to add only one word (as) instead of four words (than in response too) in order to decipher Stu's original transmission especially as I'm sure Stu would not have used "than in response too"; possibly he might have used "than in response to" .

Grammatical error, I accidentally omitted the word "than"


What I mean was: "More commonly in response to an instruction or order rather than to a request.
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The only difference between a request and an order is what direction up or down the chain you’re talking.
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Re: Over and out

Beautiful contralto voice on the radio....

"WILL, COuld you please pick up a case of champagne on the way home to the boat?"

"Wilco."

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Re: Over and out

I'm with you! I cringe when I hear "over and out". Proper marine radio courtesies are important, if for no other reason than to prevent misunderstandings over what was said. As a charter boat captain in Alaska, we are required to take periodic USCG courses and radio courtesy is one of the points that is stressed. When I hear someone using vulgarity and/or improper radio courtesy, I say say to myself "there goes another weekender, sipping his beer and ignoring the rules of the road".
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