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29-05-2014, 13:09
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#721
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
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Originally Posted by colemj
BTW guys, the monkey is just winding you up.
Mark
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To hell I am. I am serious. Quit marginizing and deflecting.
Main is just fine roach less batten less bikini style.
colemj, its time you graduate to the next step and learn to tack.
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29-05-2014, 17:25
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#722
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,457
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Monkey, you were better off when we thought you were just kidding. Now we have to examine the content of your posts, looking for substance. And it is hard yakka to find any.
Jim
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29-05-2014, 17:27
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#723
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
Posts: 13,406
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate
Monkey, you were better off when we thought you were just kidding. Now we have to examine the content of your posts, looking for substance. And it is hard yakka to find any.
Jim
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Did you not read the sign?
"Do not annoy the Monkey!"
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Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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29-05-2014, 17:53
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#724
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: on board, Australia
Boat: 11meter Power catamaran
Posts: 3,648
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Link to delivery of a leopard 44, 56 days SA to Sydney via southern Ocean.
Delivery Skipper's Report: Indian Ocean Crossing on a Leopard 44 | Leopard Catamarans US
Q: How did the boat handle?
A: The boat took the seas really well. With each approaching depression, we would get strong Northwesterlies: we would fall off with the wind and take the seas and winds on the quarter and go further South, until the wind would back round to the Southwest, and we would head back to North on the other tack, still keeping the weather on the quarter. This would allow the boat to run with only the genoa, which meant that the sail was easy and safe to reef, but allowed for good progress, none the less. The auto-pilot steered the boat with ease, and the helm was balanced. Even when the boat took occasional big beam seas, it felt stable.
Q: Did you have to make any repairs underway?
A: No repairs were needed underway. I climbed up the mast once while we were becalmed, to check the rig – forestay and cap-shrouds – and found everything to be as it should. We tightened up slightly on the cap shrouds. In very strong winds, we would tag down tightly the genoa with the lazy sheet on the weather amidships cleat, and tightened up on the topping lift and then main sheet (even without the main being hoisted) to give the rig additional “backstay” support, and we experienced NO breakage.
Q: What were the highest wind speeds and wave heights that you saw? What was the prevailing wind direction?
A: We had true wind speeds gusting into the lower 70s, but between 50-60 was frequent, from NW’lies to SW’lies, hence we would keep the weather on the quarter, and keep apparent wind speeds down. But usually the depressions would not last for more than 24 hours, so the seas would only pick up to 5-7 m, mostly a more or less comfortable, long period swell, which would push the boat along nicely, giving us some surf speeds up to 18 knots on the odd occasion. After the passing of a depression we would sometimes be becalmed slightly for a day or two, giving the sea a good chance to subside again.
Q: What kind of air temperatures did you experience?
A: About 12-17°C, high humidity and lots of rain.
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29-05-2014, 17:53
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#725
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Do non-multihullers ever go back?
Nope. They become multimonkeyhullers!
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29-05-2014, 18:09
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#726
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Multihulls - cats and Tris
Posts: 4,871
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotemar
Do you need a Big Assy to own a cat? I missed that when I was catamaran shopping
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You may not be aware but a big assy refers to an Asymmetric Multi Purpose Spinnaker. You don't need one to own a cat, but mad if you didn't have one, easy to use, and great for very broad reaching and DDW.
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29-05-2014, 18:21
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#727
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,065
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Factor
You may not be aware but a big assy refers to an Asymmetric Multi Purpose Spinnaker. You don't need one to own a cat, but mad if you didn't have one, easy to use, and great for very broad reaching and DDW.
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+A1... yer darn tootin...
Mono and Multi...
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29-05-2014, 18:25
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#728
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Boat: Mahe 36, Helia 44 Evo, MY 37
Posts: 5,731
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Factor
You may not be aware but a big assy refers to an Asymmetric Multi Purpose Spinnaker. You don't need one to own a cat, but mad if you didn't have one, easy to use, and great for very broad reaching and DDW.
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I have one, but have never heard it called a Big Assy. No worries, just a bit of entertainment
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29-05-2014, 18:36
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#729
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Florida
Boat: Seawind 1000xl
Posts: 2,592
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Factor
You may not be aware but a big assy refers to an Asymmetric Multi Purpose Spinnaker. You don't need one to own a cat, but mad if you didn't have one, easy to use, and great for very broad reaching and DDW.
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Wondering how you deal with having both a spinnaker and a screecher. I only have two head sail halyards on my Seawind one for the working jib and one for the screecher. If I want to fly my asymmetrical I have to lower the screecher and put the asymmetrical on that halyard. Since the screecher has an endless furling system and is super easy to use I simply don't fly the spinnaker.
Any hints or suggestions.
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29-05-2014, 18:37
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#730
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
Posts: 13,406
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomfl
Wondering how you deal with having both a spinnaker and a screecher. I only have two head sail halyards on my Seawind one for the working jib and one for the screecher. If I want to fly my asymmetrical I have to lower the screecher and put the asymmetrical on that halyard. Since the screecher has an endless furling system and is super easy to use I simply don't fly the spinnaker.
Any hints or suggestions.
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Be Brave and just do it! You know you want to ...
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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29-05-2014, 18:48
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#731
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,110
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotemar
I have one, but have never heard it called a Big Assy.
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No, no - IT is not called a Big Assy. That is what the skipper is called when he wraps it on the headstay.
Mark
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29-05-2014, 19:07
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#732
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Multihulls - cats and Tris
Posts: 4,871
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomfl
Wondering how you deal with having both a spinnaker and a screecher. I only have two head sail halyards on my Seawind one for the working jib and one for the screecher. If I want to fly my asymmetrical I have to lower the screecher and put the asymmetrical on that halyard. Since the screecher has an endless furling system and is super easy to use I simply don't fly the spinnaker.
Any hints or suggestions.
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Same as you - just swap over, thought about putting another halyard in, but its okay 90% of the time, I have a permanent tack line off the end of the prodder for the MPS. So I dont have to disconnect anything on the prodder, just furl(sock) and drop MPS, lift Screecher and vice versa.
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29-05-2014, 20:52
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#733
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: on board, Australia
Boat: 11meter Power catamaran
Posts: 3,648
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotemar
I have one, but have never heard it called a Big Assy. No worries, just a bit of entertainment
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Just a language issue. Any aussie understood.
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30-05-2014, 05:53
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#734
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Potomac/Chesapeake
Boat: Hunter 36
Posts: 754
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern Star
Rohan, you ask the question: "Does it count if you were only a multihuller in your own mind?" No. It means you haven't really experienced a multihull, let alone having cruised and lived on one over a wide range of conditions.
But no worries. I gather you are a life-long monohuller who, after comtemplating the issue, has decided to remain one. Good for you. I certainly won't suggest that you are wrong, or that a multihull would be better suited for your budget, taste and intended use.
But to answer the OP's question - no, you are not a multihuller who has decided to go back.
Brad
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You have me pegged so very wrong, I am not a life-long monohuller. Actually, I've barely even been on a sailboat except in recent years.
I have chartered cats only because I was certain a cat is the best way to go. I am just starting to seriously question that original assumption, that's all. I may very well still buy a multihull when I finally make my decision.
If I was a boat designer, I would take a standard modern monohull, remove the ballast and add a couple of pontoons! That would be a hell of a boat.
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30-05-2014, 06:00
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#735
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
Posts: 13,406
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rohan
You have me pegged so very wrong, I am not a life-long monohuller. Actually, I've barely even been on a sailboat except in recent years.
I have chartered cats only because I was certain a cat is the best way to go. I am just starting to seriously question that original assumption, that's all. I may very well still buy a multihull when I finally make my decision.
If I was a boat designer, I would take a standard modern monohull, remove the keel and add a couple of pontoons! That would be a hell of a boat.
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Rohan Hi.
May I make a suggestion.
Just stand on a Monohull of your choice.
Then stand on a Multihull of your choice....
Go inside or below. Sit down. Look around.
Go lay on a berth.
Go use the galley.
Then come up. Sit At the helm postion. Look at the sail layout.
When you have done this a couple of times, and have been for a sail, make the choice based on the knowledge that you will be seeing the same view for a few years.
Contrary to popular opnion, MOST multihullers dont mind monohulls at all. They just dont want one to live on one. Its a preference thats all.
We will be interested in what you decide on and it is with no malice or prejudice. Your choice is your choice and we dont mind at all. You will still be a sailor.
Good luck.
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10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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