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07-04-2013, 18:07
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Bern, NC
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Blue water sailboats
What are the desirable attributes of a capable blue water sailboat?
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07-04-2013, 18:18
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cruising
Boat: Privilege 39 Catamaran, Exit Only
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Re: Blue water sailboats
My first consideration is how the boat will stand up in a storm at sea. If I am not confident in how it will perform in extreme conditions, then I don't even consider the design. I am biased toward heavy displacement extremely strong yachts. Once I make it over that hurdle, I can live with lots of different compromises.
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07-04-2013, 18:26
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Oregon
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Re: Blue water sailboats
It needs to have the capability to have GREEN water over the deck. Screw this BLUE water thing, that can be just outside the harbor.
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07-04-2013, 18:40
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Bern, NC
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Re: Blue water sailboats
Ok,
What would you recommend for a green water sailboat?
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07-04-2013, 18:40
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FLORIDA
Boat: Alden 50, Sarasota, Florida
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Re: Blue water sailboats
Is this the most common question asked here?
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07-04-2013, 18:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glavine
Ok,
What would you recommend for a green water sailboat?
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Westsail 32....everyone knows that.
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07-04-2013, 18:49
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: Prior boats: Transpac 49; DeFever 54
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Re: Blue water sailboats
One that keeps water on the outside and crew on the inside in ALL kinds of weather! Phil
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07-04-2013, 19:01
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Norfolk
Boat: Westsail 32
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Re: Blue water sailboats
Whatever boat you feel comfortable going to sea on.....simple! There is no one correct boat for crossing oceans....fin keel, full keel, skegged rudder, spade rudder, ketch, cutter, junk.... all have crossed oceans and been in storms made it and these same designs have sunk at the dock... anything that floats will cross oceans, so chose what makes you feel comfortable based on your sailing knowledge, skills. Take care of your boat and she will take care of you! Do some reading, research and see what others are sailing.
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07-04-2013, 19:02
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Bern, NC
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Re: Blue water sailboats
I do not know if this is the most asked question. Perhaps this should be a separate topic thread.
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07-04-2013, 19:11
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Crimea
Boat: Colin Archer 36', steel
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Re: Blue water sailboats
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxingout
My first consideration is how the boat will stand up in a storm at sea. If I am not confident in how it will perform in extreme conditions, then I don't even consider the design. I am biased toward heavy displacement extremely strong yachts. Once I make it over that hurdle, I can live with lots of different compromises.
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Agreed!
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07-04-2013, 21:57
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Location: oriental
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Re: Blue water sailboats
it needs to float or at least be capable of
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12-04-2013, 07:51
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Buenos Aires
Boat: Cibert, Titán 25
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Re: Blue water sailboats
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruiser2B
Whatever boat you feel comfortable going to sea on.....simple! There is no one correct boat for crossing oceans....fin keel, full keel, skegged rudder, spade rudder, ketch, cutter, junk.... all have crossed oceans and been in storms made it and these same designs have sunk at the dock... anything that floats will cross oceans, so chose what makes you feel comfortable based on your sailing knowledge, skills. Take care of your boat and she will take care of you! Do some reading, research and see what others are sailing.
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I agree. But...there are some boats that would stand better than others.
The ideal boat to me would be no more than 30', sloop, small cockpit, small windows and full keeled if possible.
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12-04-2013, 08:04
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Re: Blue water sailboats
Quote:
Originally Posted by glavine
What are the desirable attributes of a capable blue water sailboat?
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A bluewater captain.
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12-04-2013, 08:35
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Location: Dreaming - through the bars to the Chesapeake... Land cabin: near Raleigh, North Carolina
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Re: Blue water sailboats
It seems to me that the true test for blue (or green) water is whether or not the deck is watertight. Does it matter, in most cases, how big the boat is (within reason?) Does it matter what material shapes the boat's hull (for most storms that are near misses?) Does deformation under stress play a part when the hull is not metal? Really - I don't know, but isn't it likely that any direct hit is an " SOL Davie" scenario anyway? Put a bung in a barrel, and it'll never sink (until it rusts). There may be only mush left in the barrel, but it's dryer mush, and less salty! Seems better.
So, my question, when I look at a boat, is "can it hold out water for awhile?" (maybe even many minutes) whilst it is upside down. The feeling I get from looking at most production boats - is that the companionway "storm hatches" are a joke, and the superstructure around the area of the main entrance is not securable without major redesign. In many cases, you are looking at a plywood on weak member sort of construction, to keep out the raging sea (ridiculous, IMHO). That's just my opinion at this time. Maybe someone can convince me to change it. I'm not the expert here, obviously, but doesn't this idea have the feeling of the truth ... " it just seems to me" ...
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