Viking anchor , now where have I seen this before.....

[CatNewBee]

I have the original, oversized. [emoji12]

My Mantus is a 85lbs Mantus. on a Lagoon 400 catamaran.
It sets instantly and holds great so far. 10..12t weight and a lot of wind age. The original Delta 25kg was OK too, but drags easier when reversing, the Mantus simply pins down the boat.

Probably a 25kg Mantus would be sufficient, but hey, the 38kg simply let's us sleep better.

[Izikalvo]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

I have the original, oversized. [emoji12]

My Mantus is a 85lbs Mantus. on a Lagoon 400 catamaran.
It sets instantly and holds great so far. 10..12t weight and a lot of wind age. The original Delta 25kg was OK too, but drags easier when reversing, the Mantus simply pins down the boat.

Probably a 25kg Mantus would be sufficient, but hey, the 38kg simply let's us sleep better.

what you described above is one of the main reasons we have started with our Viking project.
You use double the weight just to be sure it will hold, why? here is my opinion: Mantus marketing department does an excellent job, they sell what we all dream off, drop it and forget it, their anchor will set every time in almost any seabed, true, but what about the holding power?
see here why fluke shank angels are so important to increase holding power, it will give you the "why" we moved our shank all the way to the back of the fluke, and Maybe why no one is bragging about Mantus holding abilities.


see for yourself
https://www.practical-sailor.com/iss...s_12153-1.html

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Izikalvo

what you described above is one of the main reasons we have started with our Viking project.
You use double the weight just to be sure it will hold, why? here is my opinion: Mantus marketing department does an excellent job, they sell what we all dream off, drop it and forget it, their anchor will set every time in almost any seabed, true, but what about the holding power?
see here why fluke shank angels are so important to increase holding power, it will give you the "why" we moved our shank all the way to the back of the fluke, and Maybe why no one is bragging about Mantus holding abilities.


see for yourself
https://www.practical-sailor.com/iss...s_12153-1.html

Yes, Mantus claims also a 15..20 kg would be sufficient, but the bigger the better. We want to circumnavigate, and the anchor is one of the most important things on board. We expect some tropical storms under way... For calm seas any anchor will do the job.

[Izikalvo]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

Yes, Mantus claims also a 15..20 kg would be sufficient, but the bigger the better. We want to circumnavigate, and the anchor is one of the most important things on board. We expect some tropical storms under way... For calm seas any anchor will do the job.

What Mantus claims is Mantus business, bigger is better maybe yes depend on your windlass, chain and your crew, heavier? absolutely not needed, take a Rocna at the right size and you are good to go.

Have a happy sailing and safe anchoring.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Izikalvo

What Mantus claims is Mantus business, bigger is better maybe yes depend on your windlass, chain and your crew, heavier? absolutely not needed, take a Rocna at the right size and you are good to go.

Have a happy sailing and safe anchoring.

Until its not.
Bigger is definitely better.

Even though our 150lb/67kg supreme has held us in 80+ knots (the chain did de- form) and has never dragged I would have zero hesitation in going bigger if/when buying again.

Two articles that support this

https://setsail.com/bigger-is-better-with-anchors/

https://setsail.com/anchors-and-sizing/

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

Until its not.
Bigger is definitely better.

Even though our 150lb/67kg supreme has held us in 80+ knots (the chain did de- form) and has never dragged I would have zero hesitation in going bigger if/when buying again.

Two articles that support this

https://setsail.com/bigger-is-better-with-anchors/

https://setsail.com/anchors-and-sizing/

All other factors being equal... but do we compare ALL anchors based only on pounds? Hardly, or we would all use a rock on a rope.



Do we consider all pivoting fluke anchors equal (or all scoop anchors, by extension)? No, because some get the angles right, some don't, and some are compromises. Manson, Mantus, Rocna, Sarca, Spade, Ultra, and Viking are all different in the angles they have chosen, and I think we have learned something from each of them.



I am anxiously awaiting the next round of anchor testing. I hope testing methods will be a little better, but testing anchors is very difficult and anyone who poo-hoos it should join in. I suspect the next big round won't happen until we get a large flock of next-next generation anchors. I suspect it will be at least a few more years.

[evm1024]

Made in Ukraine? Where in Ukraine? What city? Which factory?

Inquiring minds want to know

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by thinwater

All other factors being equal... but do we compare ALL anchors based only on pounds? Hardly, or we would all use a rock on a rope.


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I only consider new generation anchors to be actual anchors and I reckon all of them are likely close enough in performance to not matter much.
So for them, more often than not its a weight thing or at least that's how I see it.
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