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Old 13-07-2013, 08:07   #16
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Re: splicing anchor line

thank you ; i have about 3 different rope splicing books but all these details
are not mentioned. i will use these tips and go with the short splice.
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I hear alot of people stating to use fabric softner. And I am sure it does make for an easer splice. But friction on the strands help hold things together. I am concerned that fabric softner is like oil on a tire and you loose your traction. IMHO.
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why does a long splice weaken the line and a.short. does not ? I am NOT saying you're wrong I am just curious
Every splicing book or guide I have read mentions that the long splice is weaker. Looking at the diagrams for the long splice I presume that this is because fewer tucks are used than in a short splice. The long splice does actually increase the line diameter slightly, but not nearly as much as the short splice because the tucks are distributed throughout the length of the long splice.

Perhaps if more tucks were used the long splice would retain more strength? I don't know, and there may be more to it than just the tucks.

With any of these splices, I suggest that you take the extra time and taper the tucked ends. This probably isn't as important with a stretchy material such as nylon, but tapering will reduce the stress points.
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Re: splicing anchor line

should be just as strong as the eye splice around the thimble.....
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should be just as strong as the eye splice around the thimble.....
What should be just as strong? The short splice yes, the long splice probably not.
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should be just as strong as the eye splice around the thimble.....
He's got a heck of a point there

BIG deal though!!! What made it chafe n first place? If only turn-buckle like you OP said, You might want to move anchor roller.

I find that slicing a piece of hose and putting it on line from bitt to bout four feet past pulpit is easiest for me, A zip tie snugged on either end keeps it put.

I've been anchored same spot for months now, went out wendsay and splice looked good after two gales.
If enough line just end for end it.
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Re: splicing anchor line

Short splices are good & strong, especially when you go a few extra lays back with them. Long splices are often necessary when running a line through a block or other small passage. They are not as strong as a short splice because in a short splice you have a sort of Chinese finger-cuff grip on each strand & in the long splice, that effect does not exist. The long splice is also less reliable when bent at sharp angles in the areas where the spliced strands end. You can somewhat mitigate this issue by whipping those areas, but the problem still does not disappear completely.

The strength & reliability of a splice depends largely on the material that the line is made out of & the condition that it is in. Used nylon that has stiffened up a little with age, will generally give a very strong short splice.

I personally do not trust a long splice for anything important if I can possibly avoid it.
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should be just as strong as the eye splice around the thimble.....
assuming that the eye splice dates back to when the rode was new and supple, that may not be the case. Old, salt soaked rodes aren't going to splice anything like new rope.
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Re: splicing anchor line

For reducing the chafe on the turnbuckle, we used to use loosely fitted pvc pipe over the bottom of the wire and turnbuckles. It allowed for easy inspection (just shove the pipe up and look) as well as air circulation and drainage. If the line gets onto the pipe, the pipe, being loose, spins. FWIW

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Re: splicing anchor line

water noodles work well, but, as you have such a fine beautiful and heavy as hell boat--please use all chain, for safety and your best nights of sleep ever/
i keep my chain off my bobstay and fittings with a snubber bridle. works well.
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Re: splicing anchor line

I have spliced my anchor lines before and never has a problem. Back then I didn't have a windlass so it didn't matter.
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