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Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 06-05-2013, 15:41
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Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

Getting back to serious discussion: the way big waves, formed from the addition of multiple wave trains of slightly differing frequencies, travel in packs ...

seems to me to evoke the...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 06-05-2013, 15:30
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

There's one other factor you didn't touch on in your otherwise excellent post, FS:

There's one reliable way to indefinitely extend the period before the next killer set, and that's to dig out...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 06-05-2013, 15:22
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

It's easy to overlook the importance of plenty of hot food, for sure.

When five people were doing the work of eight on one trip I was on, because the remainder were totally incapacitated, those...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 06-05-2013, 03:50
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

Another way of looking at it is that those once-every-15 minute waves are the waves we tend to think of when we describe the conditions.

Which either means that (as I think I might have posted in...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 06-05-2013, 02:39
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

I agree with Snowpetrel:

When a masthead anemometer is being subjected to the sort of seastate you get in strong winds, it seems to me the apparent 'wind run' past the mast could easily be 30%...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 06-05-2013, 02:08
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Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

Evans wrote: "if you want a 'standard' set of definitions they have to be about the wave size and shape, which unfortunately 'storm' and 'gale' are not."

I couldn't agree more, but I don't think...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 04-05-2013, 15:56
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

I think that's a useful distinction from CaptForce - localised, intense systems generate a different nature of wave

... and while fast moving miniature tropical cyclonic systems and suchlike can...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 04-05-2013, 13:19
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

The thing that concerns me about the increasing tendency to apply the word "storm" to offshore scenarios whenever things get horrible (or even inconvenient) is not that it's dishonest (I don't think...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 04-05-2013, 04:05
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

If you're talking about conditions in the context of that particular boat, sure thing. "Survival conditions" in a sailing dinghy might be F6, but that does not make it a "survival storm".

The...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 04-05-2013, 02:49
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

I seem to recall further up the thread someone defined survival storms as conditions where you were no longer able to head towards your desired destination.

I wasn't comfortable with that: to me...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 03-05-2013, 01:38
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

One thing I put a lot of effort into is trying to avoid demoralising living conditions.

One of the main battlefronts in this effort, for me, is a remorseless war on water. Bilge water,...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 02-05-2013, 23:29
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

It's a serious consideration: when things go 'tits-up', having extra hands aboard can flip from an asset to a liability.

It's much more of a problem than three or four decades ago, but even then...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 01-05-2013, 00:00
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

Interesting idea, (pulling the cones 'inside out' - a la Baron Munchausen with the wolves...) - I had a similar idea, which I posted a year or two back, on the Attainable Adventure Cruising site.
...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 27-04-2013, 20:30
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

I misled myself by imagining that you ran off to end up at Castlepoint, hence it must have been S sector. I'm guessing you were actually reaching up in the lee the of the Wairarapa coast, then?

...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 27-04-2013, 03:04
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

SnowP

Looking at that main of yours:

Did you perchance serve (on that square-rigger) under some hard-arse who would inspect your hammock lashings every morning, and if he could insert the tip...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 27-04-2013, 02:59
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Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

On my next boat I'm planning to reserve the colour red for everything which needs to be dealt with at the onset of bad weather (but perhaps including the crockery, just to iron the point home !)
...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 26-04-2013, 23:48
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

Yes, great summary, Pelagic.

Has anyone mentioned restowing below, and securing abovedecks?

I'm thinking, for instance, of the increasing prevalence of locker doors being broken open by the...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 26-04-2013, 16:48
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

Has anyone experimented with using the engine, in reverse, to ease the retrieval load from a stern-deployed drogue?

I'm thinking particularly in the early stages of retrieval of a series drogue...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 26-04-2013, 16:36
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

SnowP wrote:

"it worked well enough until a rope got washed down the cockpit drain and into the prop"

It's details like this that turn a thread like this into a place where we don't all have to...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 25-04-2013, 14:15
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

Tia Bu

You make good sense, it seems to me.

I think, for instance, that there's a distinction between survival storms (which can be troublesome to vessels at any scale) and survival situations...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 25-04-2013, 13:38
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

Pelagic

I'm puzzled by your assertions about current eddies in mid ocean being some sort of tidal phenomenon.

I'm assuming you mean tides as caused by gravitational influences on sealevel from...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 25-04-2013, 13:35
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

I think that's a very important observation. I wonder if it's like something I observed during my brief dalliance with rock climbing.

I would be shattered after leading a short pitch, because I...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 25-04-2013, 13:09
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

I'm not sure how this thread drifted to thunderstorms, whether coastal or midocean.
I wonder if there's a category error being perpetrated.

It started as a useful thread about "being in the...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 25-04-2013, 02:56
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

I agree that it's often the declining phase of a serious blow which can be the most trouble.

One reason is the understandable reluctance (or inability, in the case of damage) to get sail back on...
Forum: Weather | Gear, Reports and Resources 24-04-2013, 06:09
Replies: 368
Views: 35,649
Posted By Andrew Troup
Re: Storm Sailing Advice

I think you misunderstand him on the first point. I recall hardly any instances in the sources your mention, and certainly not many, of people using a drag device while hove to. I think you must have...
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