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Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

14-07-2019, 06:09

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

In use.

Randall Reeves lost his, Jeanne Socrates, this guy..

https://youtu.be/wc0-dzIXRy0?t=261

There's a video on Morgans Cloud showing similar from Randell, lots of slack often in the...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

14-07-2019, 02:28

Replies: 667

Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Quite a bit of discussion over on Morgans Cloud about jsd, behind a paywall though...

https://www.morganscloud.com/2019/07/12/series-drogue-learning-from-randall-reeves/

Been a few wind vanes...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

10-06-2019, 05:01

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Might be of interest re series drogue >

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B8Pl5MCdV4

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

16-05-2019, 07:31

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

As for retrieval...
To get stuff on/off the deck alone recently I rigged up a continuous loop (dyneema cos I had some nearby) with several loops round the anchor windlass capstan and back to a block...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

12-05-2019, 02:23

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Some test data here >
https://web.archive.org/web/20160715154948/https://www.bethandevans.com/load.htm

Knots are a REALLY bad idea in dyneema, they slip slowly under load.

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

07-05-2019, 03:56

Replies: 667

Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Ah, forgot you had a fantastically beautiful ali boat :cool:

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

07-05-2019, 03:25

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Maybe a bit if line rolling hitched or something between the 2 sides of the loop?
Stuff like that is often better left to when y8u have it sitt7ng in front of you, usually the answer comes to find...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

07-05-2019, 03:01

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

None of which is much of a problem really, bit of softener between the thimbles would keep them happy. Worse things happen all day every day on building sites around the world with massive loads....

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

07-05-2019, 02:17

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

The span set actually6 is a soft loop, or rather 2. With a 3t shackle joining the ends. Might be an idea to do a little lashing or something to stop it rotating. Benifit of using off the shelf...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

07-05-2019, 00:47

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

So instead of getting into complex splices/knots why not a simple solution like a Samsung blue line thimble each end of the bridle legs into a double wraped 2t spanset, loop formed with a 3 1/4t...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

03-05-2019, 00:59

Replies: 667

Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

More to it than that according to morganscloud, smoking gun is the knot rather than a splice. Plus the line was small for a very heavily loaded boat compared to unladen weight. Then by the sounds of...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

02-05-2019, 02:24

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Good idea! Maybe not for the bridles, that length and strength they'd be huge, but maybe worth considering for the attachment between the drogue & bridle. 3 wraps of a 2t swl spanset & a 3.25t...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

01-05-2019, 02:14

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

One good bit of news is that Jeanne Socrates cones seem to be lasting well despite a lot of southern ocean deployment :cool:
...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

29-04-2019, 03:34

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

What about doing away with the cow hitches altogether and splicing the loop straight into the eyes? Or the worlds fattest longest soft shackle if you want to take it apart? You could have hard eyes...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

27-04-2019, 05:53

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

On my boat with no chafe issues for a JSD it's a straight bury with a few locking stitches near the end of the splice. Top tip, set a search on ebay for used dyneema kite line, comes up now and...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

27-04-2019, 05:07

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Think I need to back down a little on this, Evans found a brummel to reduce strength but not by much.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160318230212/https://www.bethandevans.com/load.htm

I use a...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

27-04-2019, 03:49

Replies: 667

Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

No, not as strong. Think about bend radius at the splice. I've destruction tested straight bury splices but not brummel. When you get close to ultimate the bend radius becomes really important,...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

27-04-2019, 03:29

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Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Loss of strength and with a little stitching for peace of mind not necessary.

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

27-04-2019, 03:05

Replies: 667

Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Slight aside to that.... I did some work a little while ago on a big aerobatic show in China, fast winches with dyneema for the aerialists, Load testing was a 500Kg load and simulated power failure....

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

27-04-2019, 01:21

Replies: 667

Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Interesting discussion, with a hopefully never to be deployed jsd sitting next to the boat in a boatyard right now. Current thinking is replace the bridle legs with 8mm d12 max dyneema. Cos it was...

Forum: Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting

25-04-2019, 10:57

Replies: 667

Sticky: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Posted By conachair

Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

And another.

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