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Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-10-2016, 03:39
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I agree with you. The fact that they, being a credible institution presented criminal charges probably indicates that they have more information than you or me and that there is clear evidence of...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-10-2016, 03:36
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I was talking about that particular model. We can say that the maintenance needed can be difficult and that it needs more than most, but that is pretty much sums the two years investigation results....
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 12-10-2016, 09:51
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Yes but over time is the key word and it is good not to forget that we are talking about a boat that is designed taking racing into consideration and most of them were used for racing, namely that...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 09-10-2016, 03:49
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Has it was explained on this thread a hard grounding reparation with damage on those boats, due to the way they are built (with an integral matrix) is a very expensive affair. I remember that one of...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 07-10-2016, 09:47
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I don't understand how you find that insignificant or a detail.

The ones that are bringing the charges is the crown prosecution service based and in close cooperation with the marine coastguard...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 07-10-2016, 07:17
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

It is significant that is not Beneteau that is charged but the boat operator and It can only be for inadequate maintenance and inadequate repairs to groundings (negligence).

I would like to read...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 26-05-2015, 13:36
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I doubt since my shipyard is the official shipyard from the brand and the guys that work there are the same that built the boats. Maybe it was just half a turn, dificult to say with the bigger lever...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 26-05-2015, 13:15
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Not related with the First 40.7 but related with the lose keel bolts that seem to have played an important part on the keel loss.

Yesterday the bolt keels of my boat were tightened. The boat has 8...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 15-05-2015, 12:43
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I don't understand what you want to highlight about the boat maintenance. The conclusions state that there is a need of a protocol for inspections and repairs and that's true but on the report it is...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 15-05-2015, 10:08
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

What has to do other boats with the statement that was made regarding the Cheeki Rafiki being in a good state of maintenance? That surveyor have looked at the same photos that were used on the MAIB...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 15-05-2015, 07:22
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

That contradicts the analyses a reputable surveyor has made (he talked about negligence) and contradicts also what the MAIB report says about Cheeki Rafiki maintenance. Why do you say that? Based on...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 15-05-2015, 05:40
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Thanks, I will try to do that:smile:

Boat Yacht Naval Architecture evolved a lot since those days. On that time few were the ones that had a dedicated formal education on yacht design and I am not...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 11:33
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Not referring only to you:

here are the relevant posts





and you have said replying to "Do Minaret means that all those Beneteaus and Jeanneaus have a defect? or a flaw as you put it?"
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 10:06
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I don't understand why you keep bringing up Bob Perry. It haS nothing to do with this thread. By the way Bob Perry is not a Naval Architect. He has not a formal education in Naval Architecture. Just...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 08:33
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

You mean, you live on a country where buildings are not designed by architects? You mean that sailboats should not been designed by Naval Architects...because they are all trouble:biggrin:
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 07:22
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

The rest does not deserve any comment since it is confusing and contradicting regarding the statment you and Minaret have done previously concerning all Jeanneaus and Beneteaus built from 20 years...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 05:22
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

People buy the boats they choose because they offer the best compromise regarding a given number of different factors.

Safety and seaworthiness is a common nominator for many as interior space...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 04:02
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

"Do Minaret means that all those Beneteaus and Jeanneaus have a defect? or a flaw as you put it? "



Some light at the end of the tunnel has Exile says:smile:. It seems that on this thread there...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-05-2015, 11:45
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I cannot find nothing about a flaw on that report. Please quote the relevant paragraph.

I don't think the building is great, I believe it could be better. You and other are exaggerating regarding...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-05-2015, 11:20
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

If you restricted yourself to facts it was a lot easier. On the MAIB report several shipyard technicians were interviewed about the way they had actually repaired some First 40.7 with matrix...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-05-2015, 08:38
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

and boats to.

The one the the surveyor I talk about uses is a prototype derived from the ones that are used for examine body structures.

I had already posted several references on this thread...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-05-2015, 08:32
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

It seems you are not used to use words precisely: A design being not great does not mean that it is defective. The boat was ABS and RCD certified.

Regarding being disrespectful let me remind you...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-05-2015, 08:16
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Even Minaret contradicts you:



The MAIB report contradicts you also and it is a lot less adamant then Minaret:

"It is difficult to readily identify areas where a matrix detachment has...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-05-2015, 08:06
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I don't need to post the protocol. It is on the report, you only need to read it. Regarding the pics I have not them, the surveyor does (the survey was for an insurance company).
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 12-05-2015, 10:53
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By Polux
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

So for you this is a defect not an inconvenience?

As I have said many times the report says Beneteau should provide a protocol for inspections and a protocol for repairs. They provided a protocol...
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