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Forum: Marine Electronics 17-01-2015, 13:18
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Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

Thanks. I don't quite understand what I'm looking at. Is the 'dog leg' where they all seem to take a tack to the 'left'? If that's the dog leg, then doesn't vestus do it too? I Presume the reef is...
Forum: Marine Electronics 17-01-2015, 13:10
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

OMG Mark, I did NOT ask 'where it was reported that the other boats had AIS!'
I was doing nothing more than asking about the 'dog leg' comment came from. Which has now been answered.
You don't...
Forum: Marine Electronics 16-01-2015, 23:31
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

:thumb: nope, I'm definitely not the controlling master of the thread. So you keep going Mark. At least your providing some entertainment. So. All fine here, you keep going. :biggrin::biggrin:...
Forum: Marine Electronics 16-01-2015, 23:28
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

I'm well aware of what AIS is, I have it my self. But I suspect you know that.

"and showing those boats doing an obvious dog-leg around that reef - while Vestas either ignored the display...
Forum: Marine Electronics 16-01-2015, 12:35
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

Mark, I'm getting the impression nothing will convince you to concede anything at all. And when you intentionally use his comment about a four year degree to further the dispute, it is pretty obvious...
Forum: Marine Electronics 16-01-2015, 12:25
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

Where did you get this from Mark? Has it been reported somewhere?
Forum: Marine Electronics 13-01-2015, 22:55
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

I recently had my mooring tackle lifted and inspected. When they put it back they put it back in the wrong place, which would have it hitting another yacht. My club had it then lifted again and out...
Forum: Marine Electronics 13-01-2015, 14:04
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

:peace:

Guys, unless you raise something completely new to add to the discussion, there is simply no benefit in constantly having a go at each other.

And frankly, to an observer you both...
Forum: Marine Electronics 13-01-2015, 13:46
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

If that's the case then there being a bit 'nick picking' :biggrin: though I can see why.

But, as I have repeated twice, I have no idea what happened with this particular vessel. I was just using...
Forum: Marine Electronics 13-01-2015, 13:04
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

Strawman is a kind of argument of which many on here probably wouldn't even know about if it wasn't for an episode of 'The Big Bang Theory'.

And it got to that because of some pedantic nick...
Forum: Marine Electronics 13-01-2015, 13:00
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

Ours are $35 a pop. I just purchased three of the five I really needed. Not a nice surprise to my budget.
Forum: Marine Electronics 11-01-2015, 13:44
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

:thumb: I agree for that particular area. I've been past there at night having never traversed it previously and I just gave about a miles clearance. But then once it get's dark I give everything a...
Forum: Marine Electronics 11-01-2015, 13:03
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

:biggrin: na, before I purchased a new anchor last year I did a search and upon getting the results I decided it was better to ask locally. :thumb:

My question about chart plotters was a little...
Forum: Marine Electronics 11-01-2015, 12:57
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

Wow! :frown: I really didn't expect this simple question to turn into such a 'discussion'.

I've well and truly got my answer I was seeking, and I now understand how it's happening. Though I'm...
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-01-2015, 15:46
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

:thumb: cheers, now that answers well my original intent of how it's happening.
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-01-2015, 15:20
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

This is a good article on Australian charts.
It seems to me that the official advice is the best advice.

Make sure you have paper charts.
Don't rely solely on electronic charts, nor solely...
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-01-2015, 15:18
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

I can't see how they were in any danger?

I just can't understand how you can make that sort of mistake. :biggrin:
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-01-2015, 13:38
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

Years ago when I was a coppa, (that's Bill to you poms and bacon I think to you Yanks), I attended to a guy who had fallen out on to a jetty after ramming his runabout. He insisted it (the peer)...
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-01-2015, 03:47
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

I don't think anyone would doubt that Jim. :thumb: not even them. I was just using this case to introduce the topic. :thumb:
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-01-2015, 01:27
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-01-2015, 00:11
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

That's my limited experience too. :thumb:

However, events of recent times with experienced crews with capable vessels running aground on clearly marked obstacles, led me to ask the question. Why...
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-01-2015, 00:07
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

:thumb: got ya.

If I keep a track on a paper chart by using the gps locations off the gps, I should be right shouldn't I? As long as the chart has correct detail.
Forum: Marine Electronics 05-01-2015, 17:04
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Re: Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

The question was not about that particular vessel, though it's clearly a case of human error. My question was specifically about chart plotters and charts. I just introduced the topic using that as...
Forum: Marine Electronics 04-01-2015, 23:42
Replies: 357
Views: 36,647
Posted By Rustic Charm
Another foundering how do chart plotters get it wrong

Hi guys,

This morning there's been yet another grounding and loss of a sail boat in Tasmania. It's hit an island (I think) in the dark.

My question is, how does this happen? In relation to...
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