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Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 22-08-2019, 17:50
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

[trying to be brief, to make sure that others have sufficient bandwidth with which to discuss whether people actually eat fossil fuels]


Again, I feel that's still submitting to the "who's...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 22-08-2019, 11:03
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

:facepalm: You really don't understand the carbon cycle at all, do you?
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 22-08-2019, 06:06
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Not a problem; thank you for taking the time to respond.

I hear you, you're not the first to say it. But there is a difference between skepticism ("I'm not yet convinced") and denial ("I'm going...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 18:06
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

If the pot slowly gets close to boiling, do either jump out? :wink:

Are the frogs at all worried that their own tadpoles and grand-tads may suffer or at least have an even bigger problem to solve?...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 16:18
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

The chart is about METEOROLOGISTS (https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-13-00091.1). (American Meteorological Society
Professional Members) The group the good Dr Spencer claims is...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 10:00
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

I'm pretty sure Jack has not deliberately misused that '97%'; nobody here (besides Gord) can touch JD for the quality and appropriateness of the data he puts up. I don't know where he gets the...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 08:26
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Thanks for dropping by. It's tamped down the heat for a bit, like when the teacher crosses the threshold of an unruly home-room.

On the other hand, Rich is baaaack! and historically, his usual...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 07:47
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Ah. pardon me.


btw, much as you'd like it to be, I am not a devotee or frequent visitor to sites like Skeptical Science. The fact that I often state things that are in agreement with their...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 07:23
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

I don't see how anyone can count papers that don't explicitly state whether that piece of work either supports or detracts from the hypothesis of AGW. The climate is a BIG subject; there's other...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 19:06
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

It could also be that the person is just talking crap (i.e. falsehoods, strawmen, irrelevances, ad hominems). Repetition does not yield chocolate pudding.
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 16:28
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Damn. He's cracked it once again. It woulda worked too, if it wasn't for you meddling cruisers.
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Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 15:40
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

No, I'm saying you don't ever seem to present them here to discuss on their merits.


I do know what 'natural forces' are, enough at least to know that when significant they can usually be...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 15:15
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Ok, Good to know. I was beginning to think it was just because of one book you read on vacation or something.



When are you going to present some contrary scientific opinion, instead of rambles...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 14:16
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

I'm not Jack, but you're really off the mark with this. Jack has expressed praise and admiration for Spencer's professional work in his field. Is Dr Spencer 'doing' science when he opines on CC in...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 11:44
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Spencer, Spencer, Spencer, Spencer...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 10:44
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

You do so have a position - chin-stroking inaction. Just not enough scientific support for it. The point of subject matter experts is to investigate and advise. We have the responsibility to receive...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 09:29
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Yes the "97%" has been abused. By the pro side for treating it like it's ALL "climate scientists", by the anti side as "the exact sort of misrepresentation & manipulation" and evidence of a...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 20-08-2019, 05:58
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

I'm shocked that the thread is still alive. Mods night off?



Spencer, Spencer, Spencer, Spencer....



You are on solid ground right up to the i.e. . You don't have any basis for saying...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 20:23
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

The most concise graph of this observation has been posted here ad nauseum. It shows NOTHING in recent history to compare with the current CO2 rise or warming. Neither magnitude nor speed.


So,...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 20:08
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Seems to be a perfect example of someone thrashing around for any possible reason to dismiss a majority conclusion. If there truly were a significant number of dissenting climate scientists, and/or a...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 19:59
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

yeah... you really need to prove that. Show some counted papers where the correlation is really as tenuous as you're asserting.



I do. Do you? Exactly as Jack has told you: Of the papers that...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 19:38
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Well, let's see...

I cited it because the Arctic is getting f#@ked up - permafrost melting, roads and foundations disintegrating, hunting and fishing messed up. It won't be getting better any time...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 14:50
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

To follow up, I might ask the following questions if I was sincerely interested in challenging (or strenghening :wink:) firmly held assumptions, none of which should cause anyone any angst if they...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 09:19
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

A strengthening correlation does often point to causation. Particularly in the continued absence of a credible alternative hypothesis. IOW... what and where are these natural causes? Please show why...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 04:37
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Posted By Lake-Effect
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

:facepalm: You can't even get this right. The increase, using your numbers, is 115 ppm, which is a 40% increase. Not a 0.0115 % increase.

And they do not say the same thing. Slipping into the ppm...
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