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Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 09-10-2016, 09:48
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Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

I don't want to put my nose in this thread again,, but keep in mind that the way this boats are built make inspections quite difficult and Beneteau don't have any kind of support to help in this...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 15-05-2015, 19:30
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Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

No idea Minaret, :biggrin: but i never see a encapsulated keel falling off from a hull, they suffer some short of problems to, but it really depend of the quality and if they take care of recent...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 12:31
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Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Paulo, you are clear as thick mud...
Im not going to waste my time anymore quoting you.... Thanks..
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 10:20
Replies: 361
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Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Where , when , how?? i say sailboats produced on the last 20 years from the leading manufacturing company (Beneteau) are defective and design flawed? Twisting words hu?
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 09:29
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Nahh, you dont, no offense, but be a Architect dont make you a NA in the boating industry, this is 2 diferent concepts, you dont get it, i see you arguing with a reputable and charismatic NA , Bob...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 14-05-2015, 06:22
Replies: 361
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Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Look, is not the grid liner or pan liner the point, is the way how to design it and built, those evils in the wrong hands are just a box full of problems ready to Boommm!! in the wrong moment...

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Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 13-05-2015, 09:59
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

This is amazing Paolo, for sure MAIB report dont say specifically is a defect, kind to open the Pandora Box, i figúrate the consequences, but in one way or the other they say it is a flaw in the...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 12-05-2015, 10:57
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

The Beneteau protocol for repair the thing is BS...BS BS...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 12-05-2015, 10:40
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Last keel creature from Mr Perry.
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 12-05-2015, 09:42
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

By David Pascoe, marine surveyor..

Hence the liner has evolved to the term "grid/liner" where the function of the liner is included to take over the role of conventional framing systems such as...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 11-05-2015, 16:46
Replies: 361
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Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Gotcha!! i think is time to get out of here, as you say, all is there in the report!! Cheers..
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 11-05-2015, 16:12
Replies: 361
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Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Yeah i remember that, a tough discusión with Bob Perry about boat design despite is not a NA by fact, Bob just give it up after a dozen of posts....:biggrin:
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 11-05-2015, 10:37
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Interesting video, no grid liner here... i guess..
https://youtu.be/TGWjmboWcYc
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 11-05-2015, 09:31
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Haa someone who understand the process, yes, exactly ,,they are uneven, thats why they shoot a thick goop of plexus in the contact faces between hull and liner...

And no one mention this, but...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 10-05-2015, 17:40
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

For god shake mate, please read the full history cmon, the CG found the hull turtle without the keel and the liferaft tied in the cokpit, are you sugesting they jump in the ocean leaving the liferaft...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 10-05-2015, 12:31
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

This is a giant Ignorant post from you, as many of those post from you, without any significant experience to back up your assertions, be a pro armchair google finder dont make your post more...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 09-05-2015, 09:51
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Excellent...:thumb::thumb:
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 09-05-2015, 09:42
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

First pic a Salona keel structure, next a X yacht keel grid system, and the Bene hull pan liner...

Me think the Salona is a cool idea followed by the X yacht......
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 09-05-2015, 09:17
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Is a fact, whatever you use instead of a full hull pan liner is infinite better to fix it, CF or Steel, how i know that, because i deal with production boats every day, hollow grid liners are...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 09-05-2015, 08:47
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

You own a Bene 38, so i guess its easy for you, try read the full anexe MAIB report and other pro comments in the net from profesionals in the boat bussines, no offense...:thumb:
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 08-05-2015, 17:19
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Good point but a Boeing 707 make in the past a roll over in a test flight,,
...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 08-05-2015, 16:45
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Its a waste of time and brain energy to keep going with that silly argument, is pointless... What you are trying to say is sail a first 40,7 and if you run aground make expensive repairs inspections...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 07-05-2015, 16:14
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Not so far , im a rigger by trade and is not the first time we got a 40,7 in our dock with problems, cranking the backstay adjuster in a couple of this 40,7 make no diference until we reach a limit,...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 07-05-2015, 15:51
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

Paulo you should define cristal clear in your post, because the im saying v im not saying that is getting boring....just to point that early 40,7 dont even use methacrylate glue , like plexus or...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 07-05-2015, 09:51
Replies: 361
Views: 57,495
Posted By neilpride
Re: Cheeki Rafiki loss report

But Paulo forget to mention that MAIB found a bunch of others 40,7 under repairs or with similar liner problems, is a 40,7 disease...
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