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Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:21
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Posted By goboatingnow
Who have they " given their Healthcare over too "...

Who have they " given their Healthcare over too " the Healthcare industry and the private insurance industry , neither of which care anything about Health

Dave
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:16
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Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
No its because for idealogical reasons ( and no...

No its because for idealogical reasons ( and no other) they tried to implement a " free market" healthcare environment , which has resulted in a massive price spiral , putting millions of people into...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:08
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Sorry while you may or may not have a point , the...

Sorry while you may or may not have a point , the vast vast majority of people are led by the decisions there doctors make. Few are willing to go it alone and buck that process.

Argue with what...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:05
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Posted By goboatingnow
I meant this isn't about the price of aspirin ...

I meant this isn't about the price of aspirin

Dave
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:04
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
There is a fundamental difference. One can't...

There is a fundamental difference. One can't forgo treatment , whereas one can not only change ones choice of car completely , one can forgo the whole purchase without life threatening consequences. ...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:51
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Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Lets just stay within the bounds of most people's...

Lets just stay within the bounds of most people's Healthcare needs , not the exotics. We are talking about normal elective treatments and common emergency treatments.

Dave
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:48
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
We are talking about prescriptive healthcare here...

We are talking about prescriptive healthcare here , lets not dance on semantics. In any prescriptive healthcare the consumer has little option but to " buy" the procedure or the associated...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:44
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
In the prescription drugs market the consumer is...

In the prescription drugs market the consumer is COMPLETLY constrained. He or she cannot change the prescription , cannot forgo the treatment ( or die which is absurd ) a person with a genetic...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:37
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
[/QUOTE] You have no choice , if you are in...

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You have no choice , if you are in an acident , if get cancer , if you get a communicable disease or simply have bad genetics.

You have a choice refuse treatment and die or pay up ....
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:24
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
No your not being too subtle , I fully agree with...

No your not being too subtle , I fully agree with your post above. The problem being that when you allow the pharmaceutical industry to operate into a market where the consumer is constrained , is a...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:16
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
If you can do your own open heart surgery , by...

If you can do your own open heart surgery , by all means fire ahead

Dave
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 07:59
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Sure , but the fact is in controlled single payer...

Sure , but the fact is in controlled single payer systems , all drug companies are players. If a company CAN profiteer IT will.

Dave
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 07:58
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
What I am arguing is that fundamentally the...

What I am arguing is that fundamentally the health care market is not a market , not even a free market and it cannot be regarded as one. The US has found itself in a position where it " attempted"...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 07:33
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
MRSA and other superbugs are a problem in all...

MRSA and other superbugs are a problem in all hospitals in the developed world and elsewhere . The US is not alone in this issue. Hospitals these days are where you contract disease not cure it.
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Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 07:28
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
I disagree , the purchaser does not have in...

I disagree , the purchaser does not have in reality any choice to forgo the purchase. What you Are suggesting is nonsensical , does a cancer patient have any opportunity to forgo treatment , no not...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 07:00
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
The laws of supply and demand are what control...

The laws of supply and demand are what control the price of commodities. However in healthcare there is effective infinite demand, in so much that people are not in a position to refuse treatments or...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 06:39
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
The figures published show that Switzerland UK ...

The figures published show that Switzerland UK and Germany about equal the US markets . Furthermore where multi national companies book spend and profits is not the same as where they actually do...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 07-11-2013, 23:48
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Hogwash actually Dave

Hogwash actually

Dave
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 07-11-2013, 12:44
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Yes the statements are in direct contrast, and that is the dilemma that every developed country finds itself in. There isn't a European country for example that doesn't agonise over the health...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 07-11-2013, 12:26
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

By its very nature, there can't be much of a ceiling on health care, you have to attempt to cure the person , irrespective of costs and most countries systems "attempt" to do just that.

The...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 07-11-2013, 11:57
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Where Im in currently , thats called " community rating", i.e. age cannot be reflected in the price of Health Insurance.

Its the only way to ensure Health insurance can work, i.e. the young pay...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 07-11-2013, 11:52
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Interesting, I was talking to BUPA in the UK and VHI in Ireland and they both indicated they have world health insurance plans , well excluding the US, for about 200-450 €/£ per person per month ,...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 05-11-2013, 05:30
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

no good deed goes unpunished , ever heard of that one.

dave
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 04-11-2013, 15:09
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
If you can pay for it. Then pay for it , if you...

If you can pay for it. Then pay for it , if you can't , use the tax system to help poorer people pay for it. Big deal. One of the key criteria of a modern tax system is it helps distribute wealth....
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 04-11-2013, 15:06
Replies: 509
Views: 36,785
Posted By goboatingnow
Go sailing , leave the right wing polemic behind....

Go sailing , leave the right wing polemic behind. While sailing read up on monetary policy and fiat currencies. Also read social history to see why social welfare systems were established after...
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