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Forum: Monohull Sailboats 08-03-2014, 05:25
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Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Well it does get to the bottom of an interesting aspect of epirb technology and why things like plbs etc are useless as mob devices for example


Dave
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 08-03-2014, 04:09
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Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Beneteau and HR are very much brands. They have different clientele , price positioning and market segmentation. The vast majority of their clients are however weekend warriors.

What is much...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 19:11
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Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Almost everything built today is tougher then the skipper so that's enough.

Dave


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Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 19:10
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Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Solid teak cabinets haven't been seen in HR for a long time. Anyway Burmese teak is now illegal in the EU , so that's that.

Plywood with veneer has been the stable for oyster, hr for a long time,...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 18:46
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Posted By goboatingnow
Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Marine veneer plywood is crap, that's about 99%of everything afloat. ;)


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Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 18:39
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Posted By goboatingnow
Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

There is no particle board on a beneteau. It's veneered plywood , just like HR , oyster , etc. the difference being a robot cuts it as opposed to a highly paid and protected Swedish cabinet maker.
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Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 16:55
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Posted By goboatingnow
Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Well of course it is, it's the biggest sailboat manufacturer on the planet. Vive l'France ;)


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Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 16:30
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Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

I think you'll find the Sense will quite happily take you around the world. We've move on a bit from the WetSnail era ( the flames will start now lol ;)

Dave


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Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 15:21
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Posted By goboatingnow
Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Given that some of the worst weather in experienced on the continental shelf of say Northern Europe , why would a coastal cruiser be designated as less weatherly. Ocean cruising is actually less...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 15:04
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Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

What is the AVS of the Sense

Dave
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 00:52
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Posted By goboatingnow
Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Most boats never went more the a few hours from base, they didn't back then and they don't now.

Dave
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 06-02-2014, 13:41
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Forum: Monohull Sailboats 02-08-2013, 16:54
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As Churchill said , you can rely on the Americand...

As Churchill said , you can rely on the Americand to do the right thing , after they have tried everything else first !

The French do most things well. The rest they do very well.

Dave
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 16-06-2013, 17:59
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Posted By goboatingnow
Having delivered a fair number of aging...

Having delivered a fair number of aging production cruisers including some that saw 5-8 years of hard charter use. I can comfortably say that most modern production cruisers will be suitable for...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 16-06-2013, 17:23
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Posted By goboatingnow
Yes but a search for absolute quality is...

Yes but a search for absolute quality is worthless , all boats are compromises , you have to ask yourself " given the budget I have , is it good enough" the answer for the vast majority of modern...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 15-06-2013, 05:14
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Posted By goboatingnow
The fact is there are 1000s of Bene , Bavs, etc...

The fact is there are 1000s of Bene , Bavs, etc around , I've sailed Euro production almost exclusively , but also so e more exotic stuff , like swans, X-yachts and most Swedish stuff

The...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 04-06-2013, 16:11
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Posted By goboatingnow
CE. ( Conformite European ) is used across a...

CE. ( Conformite European ) is used across a wide range of products from toys , electronics , boats etc. it means that the manufacturer complies with whatever European Directive applies to the...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 04-06-2013, 15:59
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Posted By goboatingnow
By the way , those DIN rail connectors are not...

By the way , those DIN rail connectors are not suitable for salt water , quite a few parts are coated steel, they get nasty after a while.


And that teak deck is screwed down , creating...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 04-06-2013, 15:56
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Posted By goboatingnow
The type of electronics is no example of quality...

The type of electronics is no example of quality HRs I have seen have been supplied with everything. I seen Hanses with Simrad

A big " so what "

Dave
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 04-06-2013, 15:53
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Posted By goboatingnow
CE Certification is around since 1995. And its...

CE Certification is around since 1995. And its was driven by the big boys in British boatbuilding Princess and Fairline, Brits don't build sailing boats anymore.

Dave
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 04-06-2013, 08:01
Replies: 262
Views: 74,492
Posted By goboatingnow
Re: Beneteau sense quality issues

Firstly , as with premium cars, A lot of price differential is marketing based, HR can't sell a cheaper boat , nobody would buy it.

Secondly a huge amount of cost is absorbed in the essentially...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 03-06-2013, 17:02
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Views: 74,492
Posted By goboatingnow
I've been to HR , under the fancy teak , is a...

I've been to HR , under the fancy teak , is a boat built basically like a Jeaneau , same brand masts deck hardware , engines and cored hull !!!


Dave
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 03-06-2013, 17:00
Replies: 262
Views: 74,492
Posted By goboatingnow
cat A are not self certified. CE class A...

cat A are not self certified.

CE class A does mean the scantlings , stability etc meet minimum standards its not perfect ( like the 5 year seacocks life ) but what do you specifically criticise...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 03-06-2013, 16:56
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Posted By goboatingnow
No CE was brought in at the behest of the British...

No CE was brought in at the behest of the British marine industry to allow easier access to European markets without having to go through individual country certification.

It's does ensure the...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 31-05-2013, 16:40
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Views: 74,492
Posted By goboatingnow
You can go put today and buy a Hanse , bene or...

You can go put today and buy
a Hanse , bene or any reasonable production boat. With a little care , it will take u around the world.

What more do u want

Dave
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