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Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 09-11-2013, 05:27
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Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

We didn't hear you complaining about the posts that were pure socialism.

Universal coverage, of course, is a socialist principle. So by it's very definition, no "pure" capitalistic system will...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 09-11-2013, 05:23
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

I knew it couldn't be all that difficult to do. It's a lot harder, apparently, if you pay people millions to PRETEND to give you the information.
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 13:51
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

I'm not a conspiracy person, either, but it's not difficult to understand why a company who already has your business might want to keep your ability to change to another provider, or access to cost...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 13:10
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

THIS is the point. The health care industry really is set up so that people only have limited sources for information on their health care, and can't make economically rational choices.

This, in...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 12:21
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Great example.

Now, if you could only stay in one hotel for health reasons, and some small group of people set the rate, would THAT be free market?

Moreover, if the way you determined if that...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 12:01
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

My point was that when the regulatory aspect is more important than consumer demand, it's not really a free market.

I'll throw out the question once more, and please see if you can answer it. How...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:45
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

I'm not confusing anything, except perhaps your ability to hold a conversation without trying to skew someone else's point.

Are you making the claim that buying drugs on your travels is the same...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:25
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

I disagree with you on that.

A free-market approach, with some modification, could work, just like a regulated system can work.

The problem is that the U.S. is stuck in a bad place in the...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:17
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Again, I agree.
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:16
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

If drug markets were opened between Canada and the U.S., people would buy where they could purchase for the cheapest price.

Fixed co-pays eliminate the incentive to shop around, and therefore...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 11:01
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

True. But the health care industry would lose lots of profits.
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:57
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

If a patient has pharmaceutical coverage with a fixed co-pay, what is their incentive to do this?

Much of the cross-border pharmaceutical purchasing is regulated or illegal.

Wouldn't it be...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:53
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

This isn't a description of a free market. This is a description of how the pharmaceutical company analyzes the regulatory and market forces in order to price products, and then tries to manipulate...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:33
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Your entire argument is in bad form. If you had stuck with what we were talking about, I wouldn't have been trying to itemize your random quotes about nothing in order to debate them individually.
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Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 10:19
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Please provide just the part that explains how prescription drugs are priced.

If you don't know the answer, that's fine, too. But don't waste all of our time debating arguments that nobody else...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 09:40
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

This is EXACTLY my point. The U.S. buys a lot of pharmaceuticals, and is in a position to negotiate better prices. This was an epic fail of the Affordable Care Act, as this would have been the...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 08:54
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

I didn't make up data -- I provided the source. You really honed in on one statement, and tried to use that to "prove" the entire discussion was invalid. I provided data from the World Health...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 08:42
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Agreed, but as much as you deny it, you are aware of which country we refer to when we say "The United States".

Yes, the political system has it's warts, as do the political systems of every...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 07:14
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

I pretty much agree with all of this.
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 07:10
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Even if the U.S. were the second largest purchaser of pharmaceuticals, the same concept would apply.

Take a deep breath, and try for a moment to understand what's being said.
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 07:06
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

It seems to me that the terms "unexamined and passionate" refer to your views.

There are a few conditions that must be met for a market to be considered a "free market". Those aren't met in the...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 06:57
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

Dude, get over it. The United States refers to one country, and one country only.

You can hate that, or you can accept it, but that's the way it is.
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 06:50
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

I didn't argue any of that, though I think you could with some difficulty make the case that as the worlds largest consumer of drugs, the U.S. is subsidizing world pharmaceuticals. You'd be crazy...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 06:43
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

I'll give you a hint: There is nothing "free-market" about the current state of U.S. health care.

I can shop on the internet for the lowest price for a TV. Can I do the same for health services?...
Forum: Liveaboard's Forum 08-11-2013, 06:22
Replies: 509
Views: 36,794
Posted By letsgetsailing3
Re: Affordable Care Act - catastrophic plans cancelled

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
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