Anchor types and General questions

[Cotemar]

ClassicalBGP, maybe this anchor information will help you.

Any New Gen Shovel Anchor will be far better than any plow anchor
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[ClassicalBGP]

Originally Posted by thomm225

An original 20 lb CQR should work just about right for you. My boat is about 6600 lbs and my 20 lb CQR has held in onshore winds near 30 knots plus the ocean/bay wave mix

I found the bottom quite muddy swimming in Senator Wash near Yuma, AZ so you should be fine with the CQR!

LOL. Not sure about Senator Wash, but water is hard to come by here. Got to swim where you can. But I have found a 16lb Delta here local (shocking I know) but guy wants $100 and so far haven't seen any good reviews on this thread.

[Souzag818]

Originally Posted by thomm225

The 20 lb CQR that came with my $2,000.00 sailboat has yet to let me down in onshore winds near 30 knots. (ocean/bay waves)

This anchor is old and worn but works well

It works so much better than the ones on the boats I bought when I was 17 years old.

I have to agree. I used CQR anchors on the last two boats I've owned, and never had a problem. Held every time. I did replace my main anchor with a Spade a few months back after watching Panope's videos, as we sail in the same area. But I've kept my CQR...

[ClassicalBGP]

Need to correct. 14lb not 16lb delta for $100.

I went and watched s/v panope vids. The delta doesn't test as well as some, but much better than the danforth that I have now. But the delta and qrc seems about the same. For the price range.

[double u]

cotemar: no doubt! after some trials we exchanged the 60lbs CQR for the 45lbs Bügel, because we found it better, & I'm convinced that the new-gen concave types (spade, mantus, rocna) are much better even.
BUT: just to say: the CQRs did their jobs, & did them well
(BUT: we are sticklers for anchoring: always strongly backing down, if at all possible diving & taking a look, etc. etc.)

[ClassicalBGP]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

ClassicalBGP, maybe this anchor information will help you.

Any New Gen Shovel Anchor will be far better than any plow anchor
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This is very helpful. Lots of good information packed into understandable charts. Thank you.

However, for the last week I have been searching for a new anchor (seeing whats out there) and last day or so (after reading this and watching the Panope vids) looking for a shovel type anchor. The issue becomes, 99% of the time I will never use an anchor. I am taking this trip for a week or so where I can see the anchor getting used. I hate to spend $350-400 on one that is simply going to set on the bow. At the same time, I hear what everyone is saying on here about when you need it and it fails......

I have found a new Delta 6kg, with shipping for $103. It looked like it performed well, not as good as some on the charts and vids. Do you (or anyone) think the Delta is a good compromise in price v. use v. holding?

[hsi88]

Originally Posted by ClassicalBGP

Need to correct. 14lb not 16lb delta for $100. I went and watched s/v panope vids. The delta doesn't test as well as some, but much better than the danforth that I have now. But the delta and qrc seems about the same. For the price range.

Maybe you are not viewing all the replies. ANY new style anchor is going to perform better than that Delta. Don't want to spend $300? Here you go...brand new and its a 22 pound, new style, basically a twin of the Rocna anchor. It will outperform that Delta you are looking at with ease! $160.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...TF8&psc=1&th=1

[Tkeeth]

Got my new 55 lb mantus in in one day....putting it together this afternoon. Maybe a good nights sleep next weekend out at cat island.

[Cotemar]

Originally Posted by ClassicalBGP

This is very helpful. Lots of good information packed into understandable charts. Thank you.

However, for the last week I have been searching for a new anchor (seeing whats out there) and last day or so (after reading this and watching the Panope vids) looking for a shovel type anchor. The issue becomes, 99% of the time I will never use an anchor. I am taking this trip for a week or so where I can see the anchor getting used. I hate to spend $350-400 on one that is simply going to set on the bow. At the same time, I hear what everyone is saying on here about when you need it and it fails......

I have found a new Delta 6kg, with shipping for $103. It looked like it performed well, not as good as some on the charts and vids. Do you (or anyone) think the Delta is a good compromise in price v. use. holding?

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ClassicalBGP,

You would be much better off with one of these Rocna copies for $107 usd on eBay w/free shipping.

If you have to use a plow anchor (1950's design), my recommendation would be the cancel the 1 week trip, as you will be much safer at home.

6 kg 14 lbs Galvanized Steel Shovel Scoop Style Boat Anchor with Roll Bar

6 kg 14 lbs Galvanized Steel Shovel Scoop Style Boat Anchor with Roll Bar | eBay
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[hsi88]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

6 kg 14 lbs Galvanized Steel Shovel Scoop Style Boat Anchor with Roll Bar | eBay

When I clicked on the ebay link, it showed $1079.99 Typo?

[estarzinger]

jeeze . . . . the delta is a perfectly adequate anchor.

It is not the latest and best thing . . . . but if you found a good deal which fits your boat, it will be just fine.

Make sure it is set and put enough scope out . . . and you will be all good.

[ClassicalBGP]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

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ClassicalBGP,

You would be much better off with one of these Rocna copies for $107 usd on eBay w/free shipping.

If you have to use a plow anchor (1950's design), my recommendation would be the cancel the 1 week trip, as you will be much safer at home.

6 kg 14 lbs Galvanized Steel Shovel Scoop Style Boat Anchor with Roll Bar

6 kg 14 lbs Galvanized Steel Shovel Scoop Style Boat Anchor with Roll Bar | eBay
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I saw that, but on the page it has a link to one for $76.

6 kg 14 lbs Galvanized Steel Shovel Scoop Style Boat Anchor with Roll Bar


Now I am torn between name brand Delta and this copy. But, I am leaning towards the copy of the Rocna.

[Cotemar]

Originally Posted by ClassicalBGP

I saw that, but on the page it has a link to one for $76.

6 kg 14 lbs Galvanized Steel Shovel Scoop Style Boat Anchor with Roll Bar


Now I am torn between name brand Delta and this copy. But, I am leaning towards the copy of the Rocna.

I think you know what my vote would be...........and it only cost $76

[estarzinger]

so amusing

there are several people on this board who 'made their name' over the 'rocna steel quality' issue. the requirement for a specific (high) grade steel and the absolute need for published specifications.

and here we have moderators now pushing generic no-name knock-offs with no specifications at all.

It is just funny.

I personally have no idea whether that $76 rocna copy is any good or not.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by estarzinger

so amusing

there are several people on this board who 'made their name' over the 'rocna steel quality' issue. the requirement for a specific (high) grade steel and the absolute need for published specifications.

and here we have moderators now pushing generic no-name knock-offs with no specifications at all.

It is just funny.

I personally have no idea whether that $76 rocna copy is any good or not.

I'm with you, Evans... this is just bizarre ! Craig Smith must be having hysterics if he's still around.

I'm expecting a lot of bent shanks or worse with these anchors, but i'm a card carrying skeptic. I guess we will see how it all plays out.

Jim