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Old 05-02-2015, 18:34   #1
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Propane system Question???

Hello, I have a 1970 Hughes 29'. I am rebuilding the propane system as it was partly removed and well its old. Inside is the original Coleman 4 burner stove/oven and newly installed (before I bought it) Dickinson Propane heater.

my question is, on my stove its the old copper line and on the new Dickinson its the rubber hose. I would replace all to the rubber hose but the coleman has the copper line running past the burners to the input. I would rather not buy a new stove if I don't need to, however at my propane tank can I have a T valve with both rubber and copper lines going into it?

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Re: Propane system Question???

Yes you can connect both propane hose and copper to the same T fitting. Both use flare fittings and are compatible.

Your stove must have a connection between it and the copper propane line I would think.
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Yes you can connect both propane hose and copper to the same T fitting. Both use flare fittings and are compatible.

Your stove must have a connection between it and the copper propane line I would think.
You cannot place a "T" fitting inside the boat on a propane system. It must be in the propane locker, isolated from the interior of the boat.


There is a nearly identical recent thread on this subject and it had several answers. Try a search.
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He said "at the tank". I assume that is in a locker or certainly not in the boat's interior.
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Re: Propane system Question???

Tee ing outside the cabin is acceptable. Technically should be in the propane locker. does your stove swing? If so it must have a some flexible gas line......
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Re: Propane system Question???

Your Coleman stove does not have flame failure shut-offs it is not suitable for a boat and does not meet ABYC Standards.

Take a look at Safe Boat Propane Installations before you start playing with that system.
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Your Coleman stove does not have flame failure shut-offs it is not suitable for a boat and does not meet ABYC Standards.

Take a look at Safe Boat Propane Installations before you start playing with that system.
Yeah, most older boats, even marine stoves don't have that.
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On our boat the copper tube terminates before the tank and then a length of rubber hose leads to the regulator. But we are not US regulated and we are well ventilated.

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Coastal Canuck,

It might be wise to find out what the laws are in your area. For example, some countries require copper tubing for gas; in others, it is illegal. Once you know that, and if you have to have safety devices on the burners, you'll know whether you can keep the stove.

Here in Oz, the tradesmen have to sign off on a propane installation, and without that, insurance can be impossible to get.

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Coastal Canuck,

It might be wise to find out what the laws are in your area. For example, some countries require copper tubing for gas; in others, it is illegal. Once you know that, and if you have to have safety devices on the burners, you'll know whether you can keep the stove.

Here in Oz, the tradesmen have to sign off on a propane installation, and without that, insurance can be impossible to get.

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Assuminug the "Canuck" is in Canada, there are no laws regarding propane in boats (pleaseure craft)in Canada
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Safe Boat Propane System Installation

Might help. Basically,regs come under Transport Canada,but follow US ABYC,for pleasurecraft.
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Tee ing outside the cabin is acceptable. Technically should be in the propane locker.
A tee on deck may be OK if away from the cockpit, but one in a locker somewhere other than the propane locker -- like a lazarette -- certainly wouldn't be safe. It all drains to the bilge.
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Safe Boat Propane System Installation

Might help. Basically,regs come under Transport Canada,but follow US ABYC,for pleasurecraft.
Transport Canada Construction Standards For Small Vessels (TP1332) don't even mention propane, so there are no rules for LPG on pleasure craft.

Ten of the ABYC Standards are included (not propane) as part of TP1332. Some time later this year (says TC) all ABYC Standards will be authorized as an optional standard to TP1332 (whatever the hell that means).
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Re: Propane system Question???

I always go shut the tank off after I switch the selonoid off anyway. Better safe then sorry. Why leave the gas pressure on in the line and the cabin if your not cooking anyway. Just the way I was brought up.
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I always go shut the tank off after I switch the selonoid off anyway. Better safe then sorry. Why leave the gas pressure on in the line and the cabin if your not cooking anyway. Just the way I was brought up.
Thats what the solenoid does, it shuts off the propane and if a solenoid fails, it fails in the closed position. Still it does not hurt to manually shut the tank off if it makes you feel better.
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