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21-12-2014, 01:08
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Perplexing Webasto 3500
Spent the day troubleshooting my webasto 3500 after running fine for about 8 hours yesterday. At the end of yesterday's trip, the unit faulted out with a fault code #1. I've followed the troubleshooting guide in the manual and still at a loss. The unit will start up and fault out after a few moments of heating. I have:
1) confirmed diesel is arriving at unit.
2) confirmed filter is not the issue (currently removed to take out of trouble shooting equation).
3) confirmed intake/exhaust is not obstructed.
4) disassembled unit and cleaned burner/glow pin (burner had carbon build up).
After taking care of all of the above, I am out of options from the manual. Anyone have others ideas?!?!
For the record, unit only has about 100 hours total and has only sat for 2 months since previous operation (3 week trip where it performed flawlessly).
Thanks in advance for any ideas. Hoping to get this squared away soon as winter in the Pac NW without heat takes a toll.
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21-12-2014, 04:26
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
I would check and clean all the electrical connections.
You may have seen this manual, but in case not
http://www.suremarine.com/manuals/we...000-repair.pdf
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22-12-2014, 22:11
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Thanks Nigel. I've actually determined that there is restricted flow on the inlet tube leading to the burner....apparently I didn't do a good enough job cleaning the burner and the associated fuel inlet.
Any advice on effectively cleaning burner unit? Have sprayed down with brake cleaner and have it soaking in penetrating oil.
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23-12-2014, 01:07
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
When I last cleaned mine I did the same as you and used brake cleaner and and a gentle scraping.
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23-12-2014, 20:34
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Check the glow plug/flame sensor, for operation and proper resistance.
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23-12-2014, 21:02
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Code 01 no flame up after 2 start attempts.
Sounds like your on the right track.
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23-02-2015, 22:09
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Update: the saga continues: I replaced the burner and reinstalled heater. Started up but seemed to be at lower than normal heat output. Let it run for about 20 hours and it started faulting again...... Removed and disassembled to find the burner suited up again! Obviously the dirty burner is the secondary issue here.... Something is causing it to soot up very prematurely.
I'm dropping the unit off at sure marine services to bench test and determine wether the unit itself is the issue.
Any theories???
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23-02-2015, 23:48
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
I'm no help here I assure you but as I was reading your thread and had a 'thought', well I thought I might speak out loud.
Is the actual fuel ok?
Do you use an additive, bioside or something similar in your diesel?
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24-02-2015, 07:37
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Your thought is logical however I'm pretty sure it's not the fuel for the following reasons:
1) Tank topped off with fresh diesel in early October, then again in late December. Prior to that, burned a tank every week or two...always at a reputable fuel source.
2) anytime my fuel sits fir more than a month or two, I ensure a full tank and additive.
3) no other signs of bad fuel ie: main engine runs fine, filters/separator not suspicious.
I have wondered if perhaps I have a partial blockage in my pick up tube feeding the Webasto.
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24-02-2015, 10:34
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Good test would be to run the heater on a separate fuel supply.
I occasionally run mine from a container of paraffin ( is that kerosene in the USA ?)
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24-02-2015, 23:26
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Good idea Nigel. Yes, that would be kerosene. Will give it a shot.
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24-02-2015, 23:33
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel1
Good test would be to run the heater on a separate fuel supply.
I occasionally run mine from a container of paraffin ( is that kerosene in the USA ?)
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Why do Brits call kerosene 'paraffin'?
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25-02-2015, 14:13
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
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Originally Posted by Rustic Charm
Why do Brits call kerosene 'paraffin'?
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Must be something to do with there being English English before the US and Aus versions of English
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25-02-2015, 14:33
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Re: Perplexing Webasto 3500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel1
Must be something to do with there being English English before the US and Aus versions of English
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Has there ever been an 'English' version of English?
English orgioniated from Germanic and Nordic and has ever since evolved. There is no such thing as true or orgional English
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