Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 26-09-2016, 17:40   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,604
Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

Anybody put a boom crutch on their dodger/spray hood to be able to use it as gallows?

I've been looking around but can't find much but don't understand why since, well, why not? I did find a picture of one incorporated into an FRP hard top but that's all I got

The best I can come up with for a nice way to attach it to the tubing is some kind of lashing or maybe hose clamps since I don't want to put screws or bolts through the main arch. Any thoughts?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0877.JPG
Views:	280
Size:	173.2 KB
ID:	131841  
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 18:05   #2
Registered User
 
Davidhoy's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 1,131
Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

My hard-top Bimini is quite high, and close to the boom - it might be hard to fit a crutch that would not get in the way of the boom when the main is up. I'll be interested in seeing the other responses, thanks for starting this thread!

Regards,
David


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” – Mark Twain
Davidhoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 18:58   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,604
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

Had a dinghy once that had a little crotch that was on hinge so that it could fold down and out of the way.
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 19:02   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Port Coquitlam
Posts: 44
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

Check out Custom Dodgers Built by Iverson's Designs They are very good and I believe that they have a photo of a gallows that is part of a tubular framed cockpit enclosure on their web site.
sailful is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 19:14   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,604
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

I found the Iverson's one. Cool. It's a Y-shape that fits over a tubing spur welded to the frame. Requires welding though, I got the skills but don't have access to the gear.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0881.JPG
Views:	254
Size:	211.0 KB
ID:	131844  
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 19:15   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,604
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

The spur.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0882.JPG
Views:	266
Size:	201.8 KB
ID:	131845  
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 19:26   #7
Registered User
 
Davidhoy's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 1,131
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

Did some digging online. I believe the more nautically correct term is "gallows". Here a google image search with lots of interesting options - https://www.google.com/search?q=boom...w=1024&bih=672




Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” – Mark Twain
Davidhoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 19:44   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,604
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delancey View Post
Anybody put a boom crutch on their dodger/spray hood to be able to use it as gallows?
Do you think I missused nautical terms? What I said. "Anybody put a crutch on their dodger to be able to use it as a gallows?"

A crutch is usually a single or sometimes pair of pieces of wood which supports a boom. Gallows refers to the frame itself, not the notches in it. I am asking if anyone has added a crutch to their dodger to make the doger frame function as a gallows.

I don't see in your google search for a boom gallows on a bimini where a crutch is attached to the dodger frame. Yes, lot's of interesting options but none that apply to my question.

Since what I am talking about isn't a notch cut into the frame but rather a separate piece with a notch in it I think a crutch is the appropriate term.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0883.jpg
Views:	197
Size:	152.2 KB
ID:	131849  
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 20:25   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,604
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

The folding crutch on the dinghy looked basically like this one but had a hinge on the bottom so that it could fold down.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0884.JPG
Views:	211
Size:	61.0 KB
ID:	131850  
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-09-2016, 21:53   #10
Registered User
 
FSMike's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bahamas/Florida
Boat: Solaris Sunstar 36' catamaran
Posts: 2,686
Images: 5
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

My ex had a crutch on her 35' yawl, went down through the Sunbrella dodger through a hole made for that purpose and slid into a bracket on the back of the cabin trunk. The dodger hole had a Sunbrella sleeve sewn on which laced tightly around the boom crutch when in use. Quite leak proof the vast majority of the time, just tucked part way in when sailing.
Varnished mahogany with bronze fittings, looked good and worked.
__________________
Sail Fast Live Slow
FSMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-09-2016, 03:01   #11
Moderator
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,200
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

If you are thinking to take all the load on a dodger bow, do be careful about heaving down on the mainsheet when the boom is in the crutch. Those bows are not all that strong, and the combination of boom and sail weight plus sheet tension can easily overwhelm one.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II, lying Port Cygnet Tasmania once again.
Jim Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 27-09-2016, 10:58   #12
Registered User
 
Oceandeep's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Hudson 50
Posts: 111
Images: 2
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

I built a small boom gallows into my dodger to support the main boom. It is supported separately by two 1.5" upright tubes and then attached to the dodger frame. For the gallows I used a solid piece of teak that is a scaled down version of the boom gallows on the transom . I can provide more pictures if you are interested
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image.jpg
Views:	225
Size:	424.7 KB
ID:	131904  
Oceandeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-09-2016, 14:34   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,604
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

Thanks for the feedback. Gives me a few things to think about. Like maybe trying to get a rigid boom vang...
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-09-2016, 16:23   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area (Boat Sold)
Boat: Former owner of a Valiant V40
Posts: 1,156
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

On our boat we use a boom crutch that fits into an aluminum socket welded to the front of our traveller bridge just in front of the dodger. Quick, easy, looks good and stows in the lazarette. Does a great job of keeping the boom quiet in rolly anchorages. Sorry, no photos handy and we are away from the boat.
jamhass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-09-2016, 07:22   #15
Registered User
 
Scaramanga F25's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 971
Re: Boom Crutch On Dodger/Spary Hood

I had boom gallows on only one of my sailboats.

The lopping lift was used to keep the boom high before releasing the main halyard and the gallows used only when we were at anchor and the topping lift released. Then the boom stayed put.

Other than supporting the awning we never found it very useful as modern booms are relatively short.

Once you have had a rigid vang you will never see the need.
Scaramanga F25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
dodger, hood


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dosger/Hard Bimini/Boom Crutch anacapaisland42 Construction, Maintenance & Refit 4 03-04-2015 09:58
Soft Dodger or Hard Dodger - Pros / Cons Duke 48 Construction, Maintenance & Refit 60 31-08-2012 11:45
For Sale: Hood roller furling boom and sail corbin39sailor Classifieds Archive 2 15-04-2012 12:30
Bimini with built dodger vrs proper dodger bobfnbw Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 1 07-03-2009 08:07
Hood Stoway In-Boom System angus Construction, Maintenance & Refit 3 22-02-2007 17:30

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 21:00.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.