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Old 25-08-2016, 01:41   #1
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Your help please .!!!!

Ok so looks like I came up with 3 boats and would like your expert cruisers opinions please.
2010 Leopard 38
2004 Lagoon 410 S2
200 Nautitech 40

Can't really make up my mind so your help will be more than helpfull 👍

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Old 25-08-2016, 03:43   #2
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The leopard 38, good design (morelli melvin) well executed.
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Old 25-08-2016, 04:27   #3
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Thank you Factor , just hope she is big enough compared to the other two.

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Old 26-08-2016, 01:04   #4
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It depends on the hull number. If it has a hull number greater than A4025 it should be a good boat if well maintained. However, there were certain problems below #25. Otherwise, they are nice boats but far narrower than your other selections.
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Old 26-08-2016, 11:32   #5
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We are pretty partial to our2006 nautitech 40. I like the dual helms, but it does leave one exposed to the elements.

Much depends on your constraints. Ours were performance and 4 cabins for the # of people we have onboard at times. We also wanted a boat in good repair to avoid the time required for an extensive retrofit.

Suggest you write down what you must have, and a prioritized list of what you want, and compare the boats on this basis.
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Old 26-08-2016, 12:33   #6
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Ok so looks like I came up with 3 boats and would like your expert cruisers opinions please.
2010 Leopard 38
2004 Lagoon 410 S2
200 Nautitech 40

Can't really make up my mind so your help will be more than helpfull 👍

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If you want a copy of my comparison spreadsheet to help you decide PM me and will send you it.

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Old 26-08-2016, 16:31   #7
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All well built cats. Only issue with the Leopards is rather low bridge clearance. We we're looking at 2004 42' fantastic layout but clearance only about 58cm (24"). As we plan to do some extended cruising clearance was high on the list. Finally settled on 2004 Fountain Pajot 43' Belize with clearance of 90cm (36") and love it. Really comes down to personal choice and where you plan to go. Have fun.
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Old 26-08-2016, 21:46   #8
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Of the 3 I'd say Lagoon.

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Old 26-08-2016, 22:07   #9
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All well built cats. Only issue with the Leopards is rather low bridge clearance. We we're looking at 2004 42' fantastic layout but clearance only about 58cm (24"). As we plan to do some extended cruising clearance was high on the list. Finally settled on 2004 Fountain Pajot 43' Belize with clearance of 90cm (36") and love it. Really comes down to personal choice and where you plan to go. Have fun.
I think you are confusing the older Simonis designed Leopard 38 with the M&M designed one. Two totally different beasts!
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Old 27-08-2016, 18:50   #10
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I can only really comment on the Lagoon 410S2. Ours co-incidentally is a 2004 model and is an an ex charter boat. After two and a half years of ownership we just love our boat. She is a very good seaworthy vessel which we are currently cruising the northern parts of the Eastern seaboard of Australia. The owners version would have been brilliant but we settled for the four cabin model.
Dependant on angle of the wind we happily do 7 to 8's in 15 knots of breeze in full cruise trim. The boat is very liveable and comfortable at sea or at anchor. It is a great size for a cruising couple and I have found sails as well or better than a lot of new models.
Personally we did not consider catamarans with helming positions that were not protected. In adverse conditions its just plain miserable. In tropical area you are constantly exposed to the sun. This is only my opinion and what suits us. We did modify the bimini on the Lagoon for greater protection and it was worth every cent.
Of course value for money was a major consderation and we feel that we got an awful lot of boat for the money we paid. We do have plans on going to Indonesia if things work out and feel very confident in the boat we have chosen will get us there and back in safety and comfort.
We have friends with Leopards and they are very happy with their models.


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Old 27-08-2016, 23:29   #11
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Thanks Greg this helps a lot

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Old 06-09-2016, 03:42   #12
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I've heard it said a few times - no point asking a boat owner whether he recommends his own boat. By and large we all defend our own choices because we would hate to 'fall out of love' and have to start all over again!

As another N40 owner, I won't start on the pros and cons of exposed helms. That is a very practical issue and potential buyers can fairly easily assess the benefits (yes there are some) and the downside, and although I've seen some photos of mini-biminis over the helms, I really think this looks ridiculous.

And that brings me to the point I want to make. Rarely do I see comparisons of aesthetics, even though the old rule about "do you admire your yacht when you row away from her at anchor?" is well known. Is it because we fear ridicule for prioritizing aesthetics over safety or seaworthiness? My advice, perhaps controversially, would be to choose a yacht you like to look at, and then work on the practical issues, all of which are 'do-able'. But you will never convert an ugly yacht (in your own assessment) into a beauty..
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:47   #13
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Chris those are true words and I decided to go with the Leopard 385 , why because yes I like her looks she's a beauty , won boat of the year , good condition , price and 2010 model and location is also more convenient for me.

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Congratulatons on your purchase, I am sure you are going to be very happy with your choice. At the end of the day you and you wife are the ones who have to live and sail the boat and more importantly know what you want in a boat.

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It all depends on whether you want a boat that has a balsa-wood cored hull or not... what century are we in again???
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