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Old 26-05-2012, 18:38   #16
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OK found her. Hanse, but not the 545. Hit a ufo. Bad luck. Could happen to any other design.

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Crew abandons yacht after whale strike during ARC rally

Could happen to any design but would it cause a problem so severe that the vessel had to be abandoned in say a pac seacraft, steel hull or even an oyster??
This is, of course, more of a racing boat as opposed to a really solid cruiser.

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Is it fair to say that hanze 545 is better for coastal cruising and oyster 54 is cross ocean?
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Old 26-05-2012, 18:48   #18
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Is it fair to say that hanze 545 is better for coastal cruising and oyster 54 is cross ocean?
Leemon,

I have to wonder...are you seriously considering purchasing one of these yachts?

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Yes. Decision this summer.
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Old 26-05-2012, 19:01   #20
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Could happen to any design but would it cause a problem so severe that the vessel had to be abandoned in say a pac seacraft, steel hull or even an oyster??
This is, of course, more of a racing boat as opposed to a really solid cruiser.

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Depends only on what the ufo is and how you hit yours. Some time back an Oyster hit theirs in the Indian and went down just like any other boat could.

We also do not know how severe the problem was. We only know the boat carried a crew and the skipper / crew made the decision to abandon.

Pacific Seacraft, Oyster, Hanse or a steel boat (e.g. Titanic) all can sink and do at times sink in result of collisions.

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Yes. Decision this summer.
WOW!!

Since you have the pockets, I would be glad to offer my many years of experience of dreaming of such a vessel to help you make this very tough decision. Please send ticket and expense acct #

Ok, how about this... buy the Oyster, sail across the pond and buy me a beer for my two cents worth
Actually, if it comes down to these two vessels, if serious sailing is your goal... gotta go for the Oyster.

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Is it fair to say that hanze 545 is better for coastal cruising and oyster 54 is cross ocean?
I doubt it. Much depends on which coast you cruise and which ocean you want to cross, and when. Coastal cruising may and at times is more demanding than an ocean passage.

You said this summer. From where to where?

Are you sure you have the necessary skills and are YOU up to the job at hand?

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any advice on which overall radar navigation system best? Simrad is what hanze recommends .
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The one that you are familiar and comfortable with is best. The expensive ones can be somewhat better than the cheap ones, but this is not a strict rule. The best ones are pretty useless when one does not know how to use them.

If you are building a brand new boat then getting whatever comes in the package saves you time and cost on shopping and installation. Getting a bare boat and buying your own systems is only recommended if you know exactly what you want and can afford a technician to put them into the boat.

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I can't look at this layout without imaging a following sea funelling right into the companionway.

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the op is looking at 545...significantly bigger, but essentially the same open stern so, essentially, same problem.

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I can't look at this layout without imaging a following sea funelling right into the companionway.
Is this Hanse 545?

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the op is looking at 545...significantly bigger, but essentially the same open stern so, essentially, same problem.

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The first thing - there is no problem. If there were, they would not build them like this.

545 has a very (!!!) high stern and then there is a sill before companionway steps.

The upside is these open cockpits do not get pooped. If a wave gets into the cockpit it is free to leave. Not what one can say of most 'cruising, bluewater designs' huh?

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non, non, mon ami.

pooped...from behind..you get that in this setup and, whoosh right down the companionway.
Of course, HOPEFULLY, under those conditions one has enough sense to secure said companionway.

But I do take your point

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I do not like the interior though: many sharp corners and plenty of open space - I can see the owner flying across the cabin coming to an abrupt stop with their rib on the edgy joinery.

Not much better in the new Oysters though.

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