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Old 10-01-2015, 18:07   #16
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Re: Another Bene with broken rudder bits

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If your rudder is too delicate to withstand an occasional grounding (on a soft bottom), then don't come to the Chesapeake. It's like a pass-time around here. When a north wind blows the water out of the bay, half the boats around here are sitting on the bottom in their slips.


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I've broken a rudder in the Chesapeake. It certainly didn't meet your description that day.

I also learned a few things that day.

It was more my fault than the boat's.
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Old 10-01-2015, 18:08   #17
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We have a little anchorage in the San Juan Islands called "Shallow Bay" wonder how it got the name, LOL Anyways people anchor in the wrong places here all the time and when the tide goes out in the middle of the night you can hear dishes crashing out of the cupboards as they start to go over on their sides. I have never heard of a boat suffering rudder damage because of this. The Cyclades series was a head on attack by Beneteau to get back some of the market share in the charter sales they lost to Bavaria. Pretty light weight construction all around on these.
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Old 10-01-2015, 18:12   #18
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I agree, but that's different than anchoring in a tide that grounds your boat.
They were anchored, and the tide grounded their boat. Watch their first video.

How is that any different than when you are moored and the tide grounds your boat? In each case, your boat is left sitting upright in the mud.
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Old 10-01-2015, 18:14   #19
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They were anchored, and the tide grounded their boat. Watch their first video. How is that different than when you are moored and the tide grounds your boat?
I did watch it. They didn't record it -- they just said they anchored in a bad spot and the tide grounded their boat.

I'm just saying it depends on the tide, the bottom, and the winds.
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Old 10-01-2015, 18:21   #20
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I did watch it. They didn't record it -- they just said they anchored in a bad spot and the tide grounded their boat.

I'm just saying it depends on the tide, the bottom, and the winds.
I think it depends more on the quality and construction of the boat. All boats should be able to withstand a light grounding. The couple's grounding was so light, that they were able to free themselves using only their motor with no outside assistance.
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Old 10-01-2015, 18:28   #21
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I think it depends more on the quality and construction of the boat. All boats should be able to withstand a light grounding. The couple's grounding was so light, that they were able to free themselves using only their motor with no outside assistance.

You're assuming the tide wasn't higher when they freed themselves.
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Old 10-01-2015, 18:34   #22
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You're assuming the tide wasn't higher when they freed themselves.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Re: Another Bene with broken rudder bits

Well, its a flaw in the Oceanis series and Cyclades, in design and construction, this dudes do a amazing repair with the strap, by the way all the info is here.Rudder Failures - Page 10 - Cruisers & Sailing Forums
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Re: Another Bene with broken rudder bits

I think the sad part of this story is the total ignorance of the builder. No one with cruising experience would build a boat with important bits so difficult to get at.
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Well, its a flaw in the Oceanis series and Cyclades, in design and construction, this dudes do a amazing repair with the strap, by the way all the info is here.Rudder Failures - Page 10 - Cruisers & Sailing Forums
Just when I was starting to feel a bit more confident about the build quality of mass-produced production boats.
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I think the sad part of this story is the total ignorance of the builder. No one with cruising experience would build a boat with steering gear so difficult to access.
Although the Pacific Seacraft 34 is built much stronger look at the difficulty Ocean Girl is having accessing their steering gear in a current thread. I would sure hate to try to make steering repairs to that in a seaway.


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Just when I was starting to feel a bit more confident about the build quality of mass-produced production boats.
Ohh dont worry, Smack coming soon to help you restore that confidence.
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Ohh dont worry, Smack coming soon to help you restore that confidence.
Smack is no more among us. The Forum is going to be more boring without him.
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Smack is no more among us. The Forum is going to be more boring without him.
What you mean ?
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Re: Another Bene with broken rudder bits

time yet to draw the line on the wall marking where the highest my boat is best yellow droplets reached?



We turned down a Catalina 36 many years ago, it was a boat show model and offered to us at a 'special' show price by the dealer in the UK. It had been fitted with a shoal draught keel which left the rudder then protuding significantly deeper than the keel. The dealer said it was easily solved as they would cut a foot off the rudder bottom for us. We declined.
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