Ok heres a Grampian;
Sadly its the only photo
I have of my first cabin
boat and it doesn't show the back end. However, it shows the the main features. As noted in my previous comment, the main cabin ports
are huge, and would have to be blanked off as they are only held in with flimsy rubber gaskets and a wave against them would punch out the lexan
. Now one nice thing about the Gramp is the way the interior
is built as a seperate FG molding on some of them. From the bow back to the forward bulkhead, (between the two smaller ports
, the interior is broken into 3 compartments which are either watertight already or can be made so with little effort. The level of the vee berth comes up to about 8-10 inche above water
so a hole might well be contained in one compartment. Nice to have in a collision
with a container or log.
is a bit of a liability as manufactured as it is fully 8 feet long with two small 1 or 1.25 inch drain ports in the transom. My plan was to deck
over the aft end, and extend the rudder
shaft up thru the new deck
. Shorten the cockpit
to about 5 feet and add some serious drains. The cabin entry is also poor as it is only about 10-12 inchs above the cockpit deck. I built a step that high and fixed the bottom two hatchboard in place permanently to keep water
out of the cabin if I got pooped. (You will need to extend the companionway
steps.) Another thing is that the cockpit lockers are open at the bottom and allow water free access to the cabin interior. This can be easily remedied with some plywood
, and glass, there by giving you two more sealed compartments which extend a bout 12-14 inches above the water line. The main cabin seats are also compartmentable, (unfortunately only 6-8 inches above the waterline) so that you end up with mini watertight compartments for about 2/3s the lenght of either side.
The chain plates are strap stainless, bolted into plywood
plates glassed to the skin. Addition of backing plates
makes them stronger and less likely to pull out. The bow fitting is a casting, bolted thru the deck with 4 large bolts and then secured at the front by the bow strap which goes down about 8 inches, also bolted thru the stem with large bolts. The stem thickness in this area is approx 1 inch, while the rest of the boat averages about 1/4 inch. On a sunny day you can see the waterline from inside. The split back stay goes to two stainless straps, about 8 inches long, bolted thru the transom. Backing plates
are a good idea here too.
Inside there are two main bulkheads which not attached to the deck and cabin. They are glassed into the hull
. There is a small amount of space to allow movement. I don't know if glassing them in place to the deck would help or hinder. I've never heard of anyone having a problem with that particular area.
The boat has a cast iron keel
, which is secured with about 12 3/4 or 7/8 bolts thru the bottom of the hull
. The laminate here is about 1.5 inches thick. Very solid joint. I've never hear of a keel
weeping or shifting from a grounding. My own boat had a chunk about 1.5 inches by 1.5 inches chipped off the leading edge because of an impact on granite rock in Georgian bay. No damage done to the keel joint at all.
The rudder is as mentioned a spade with a 1 inch shaft that comes up thru the cockpit floor. The shaft has a pin thru it that rides on a bearing. The rudder head
is keyed and bolted above that but doesn't take any load from the rudders weight. I would add some triangular flanges to the rudder tube below the cockpit to strengthen the area
I've had mine out in the previously mentioned weather
, plus one nasty weekend up on Georgian Bay where the wind
was also blowing about 35-40kt. Sailed her about 12 miles back to harbour, using the bloody awful rolling boom reefing system and a very small jib
. Running down wind
, no tendancy to broach and running at about 6.5-7.2kn on the log. Very steady, if a bit white knuckled. After this trip I had jiffy reefing installed on the main and got rid of the furling gear
on the bow, changed to roller reefing. The original gear
was wire luff furling
only, so it was either all in or all out. If you wanted to change sail you need to drop it on the side deck. After these changes, sailing in anything up to 40 kn was easy. As long as you paid attention, and were conservative, reefing down when you got your first twinge, up to 35-40 is not a scary thing. Over that it gets a bit exciting again. As I mentioned in one post, I lived aboard this one for a year and a half, so sailing a blizzard or among the ice was interesting. I wouldn't plan on going out looking for trouble but had enough trust to be able to deal with what ever the weather
I had her blown onto the rocks on the side of the Murray canal when the wind overpowered my outboard
and we didn't have enough power to get her turned. Hit the rocks and rode
up about a foot out of the water at about 5 kn, no damage what so ever other than a small crimp in the chrome stem band that runs below the waterline. That was my fault. I had replaced the old 9.9 Mercury
with a 5hp Mariner due to money
problems. It worked fine except when the wind was up. With the Merc, I would have been able to get her turned again.
The Gramp was my first cabin boat, and I learned a lot from her. The way she was first trimmed, she would automaticly turn to windward if overdriven, and you could put the rudder hard over and she would still turn to wind. The fellow who was teaching me set it up that way to keep me out of trouble for my first year. The following year we changed the trim a bit, and you now had to pay attention to what you were doing. She could be driven hard, But now I was experienced enough to know when to back off. As things progressed I developed a trust in her. She wouldn't let me down unless I did something monumentaly stupid, and even then maybe not.
I asked a couple of people locally who had some trans atlantic experience about taking her to England
. Given some modifications which I listed, their opinion was it was doable with the normal amount of risk.
Oh yeh, I can't say how she compares to a Folkboat
or Contessa as I've never had the priviledge of sailing on of them. A Gramp is light, about 5900lbs, fast, 7.2-7.5 on a good day and very responsive. With her interior compartmentation, I think she'd do Halifax-Lands End very well in the summer months.