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Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 22-06-2010, 22:12
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Posted By Pelagic
Rule 13 Subsequent alterations of bearings

These "judgment calls" are often the cause of many collisions....good for us to air them out.




At what maximum distance apart between 2 vessels, would the courts interpret it to be...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 22-06-2010, 22:06
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Rule 12 Discussion Sailing Rules

Does Rule 13 over-ride Rule 12 ?
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 22-06-2010, 22:04
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Posted By Pelagic
Certainly lots of Fog this time of year on the...

Certainly lots of Fog this time of year on the West Coast....

That is a really good question jackdale and in 1972 IMO Conference, serious consideration was given to forming one set of...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 18-06-2010, 07:18
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Rules 11 to 17

Perhaps it is best that we show maneuvers when in sight of one another in one shot

Section II. Conduct of vessels in sight of one another.

Rule 11
Application.

Rules in this section...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 17-06-2010, 20:15
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
If someone has the ability to Jpeg the chart and...

If someone has the ability to Jpeg the chart and traffic scheme with the low border at
35:30' I can show where there have been incidents with local enforcements
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 17-06-2010, 19:50
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Great advice from a professional Waterman and in...

Great advice from a professional Waterman and in my early days as a watch keeper on a large tug towing active rudder container ships up to Skagway… (JB Brown and the Klondike) … your West Point...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 17-06-2010, 18:09
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Posted By Pelagic
This is something I have discussed with other...

This is something I have discussed with other cruisers who get intimidated by the big boys overtaking them in the lanes and always stay out of the main lanes and hug the coast

Lodesman is...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 17-06-2010, 17:44
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
I think we would all agree with Waterman and...

I think we would all agree with Waterman and Lodesman that ultimately as the skipper on board, you are responsible for the decisions you make on piloting your vessel…. So “permission” may be a...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 13-06-2010, 21:52
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
This question is for cruisers who feel they...

This question is for cruisers who feel they should always try and stay in the inshore zones away from the big guys.

Let’s use as an example…. if you were sailing over from Florida approaching...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 13-06-2010, 21:42
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Just added to you comments above

Just added to you comments above
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 13-06-2010, 21:20
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Hi David, Hi David, Just to clarify, I...

Hi David,

Hi David, Just to clarify, I meant that you and Paradix disagree with Nigel and Bewitched and as far as court “Interpretation” as well as US Law......Nigel and Bewitched are...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 10-06-2010, 20:48
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
This is great! Exactly what I was hoping for...

This is great! Exactly what I was hoping for where well considered interpretations of the Rules differ from one another.

If I can paraphrase their answers:

1/ Bewitched and...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 09-06-2010, 22:54
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
I tend to agree as questions like what UB67 just...

I tend to agree as questions like what UB67 just quoted on rule 3 will come up and it always adds clarification to the whole legal interpretation of the Rules, which is the subject here.

Still...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 09-06-2010, 22:44
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
The lights and shape are not optional, they are...

The lights and shape are not optional, they are part of the rules for identifying yourself and if another vessel does not know what these shapes/light mean, then they would be considered unsuitable...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 07-06-2010, 16:57
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Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Hi UB67… I was wondering if I had created a...

Hi UB67… I was wondering if I had created a monster.:confused:

My reasoning behind keeping this as one thread is that the rules all interrelate and you need to “interpret them in their...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 06-06-2010, 07:16
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Rules 9 and 10

Thought it might be easier if we combined or discussion of these 2 Rules

Rule 9 Narrow channels.

(a) A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway shall keep as near...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 04-06-2010, 19:20
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Most of the court cases where collisions have...

Most of the court cases where collisions have taken part and Rule 8 is quoted seem to follow these interpretations.

8b… The give way vessel should alter so as to ..”leave no possible doubt...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 04-06-2010, 18:47
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
In pre-GPS integration days you selected a land...

In pre-GPS integration days you selected a land target, then it calculated set and drift to ground stabilize so the land did not move. It would use that calculation until you decided to stabilize...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 04-06-2010, 12:28
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Hi Lodesman My own small radar on Star...

Hi Lodesman

My own small radar on Star Gazer has True Motion.

This is a Ratheon HSB series CRT display, quite old (1999) but with a mini ARPA and all the bells and whistles, pretty...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 04-06-2010, 12:11
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Rule 8 Action to avoid a collision.

Rule 8 Action to avoid a collision.


(a) Any action taken to avoid collision shall be taken in accordance with the Rules of this Part and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, be...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 04-06-2010, 11:44
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Think of True motion radar presentation as a...

Think of True motion radar presentation as a “bird’s eye” view of what is happening.

The land stays still and your vessel and others move at their respective direction and speed. When your...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 03-06-2010, 21:31
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
I think this is great that we are hearing from...

I think this is great that we are hearing from the commercial guys as well as yachtsmen on their perspective about radar display as well as what is considered a minimum CPA in open water.

My...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 02-06-2010, 19:50
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Thanks Jack... I think it is important to get a...

Thanks Jack... I think it is important to get a good consensus on this before we discuss the pros and cons... hope to hear from many others
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 02-06-2010, 19:38
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Great Summary Lodesman and you are correct, it...

Great Summary Lodesman and you are correct, it appears we are jumping ahead to 16 & 17 and how it relates to 12, 14, 15 and 18 but at the moment I am thinking in general plus historical terms of how...
Forum: Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 02-06-2010, 07:41
Replies: 268
Views: 33,004
Posted By Pelagic
Rule 7 Risk of Collision

Rule 7 Risk of collision.

(a) Every vessel shall use all available means appropriate to the prevailing circumstances and conditions to determine if risk of collision exists. If there as any...
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