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Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 26-03-2019, 13:49
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Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

When I "throw down the challenge" I actually mean I WANT people to find references rather than just give opinions. I'm glad that Dockhead did and truly appreciate the effort. The law is weird and...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 26-03-2019, 05:31
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

Exactly.


If moving is practical it is probably the better choice. But it is NOT automatically the more seamanlike choice. That calculation needs to include all factors. If staying is more...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 26-03-2019, 05:10
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

IF you can easily move you should. Courtesy and good sense. We all agree. But I don't think there is a legal responsibility and I don't think we can create one. Or rather I throw down the challenge...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 25-03-2019, 15:01
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

And if the alternative was heading out into bad weather to avoid the boat that "may" have anchored too close? I could easily argue that heading out could be bad seamanship. Hanging fenders was...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 25-03-2019, 13:31
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

Let me start by saying your post was well written and well reasoned... before I offer a different view.


What if I believe, in my sole, that up-anchoring and moving is more risky than staying...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 09-03-2019, 10:35
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

This might even make a good thread:


If the assumption is that the anchor will rotate and reset, will it do this more reliably if deeply set, or will it rotate better if set more shallow?

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Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 09-03-2019, 09:55
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

I've been yelled at for moving a boat by hand. Just my palm. In stead of responding, I just said "It's OK" and finished my job and left.
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 09-03-2019, 07:41
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

I'm OK with overlapping swing circles, to a point. If you are over my anchor, that means you are overlapping 50%, which is probably too much, as you just proved. You have double parked without...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 08-03-2019, 14:05
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

Slight drift.


How do you deal with the "My anchor is under your boat" problem when it is time to go?


Just posing the question for discussion, no correct answer implied.
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 07-03-2019, 18:14
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

^^ And don't assume because someone is there that it is a good place to anchor. Don't assume anything.


Anchoring is such a weird topic. A mixture of facts, engineering, experience, lore,...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 07-03-2019, 14:37
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

I agree the long-scope guy is a pain, but I'm pretty sure he is on solid legal ground. Remember that right and legal are two separate concepts. His argument is pretty simple; I was here first and...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 07-03-2019, 09:12
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

You. It is NOT because he laid 12:1. It is because he laid 12:1 and you decided it was safe to anchor within the swing radius. Think about how silly it would be for the court to try to decide for YOU...
Forum: The Sailor's Confessional 01-03-2019, 14:41
Replies: 276
Views: 44,333
Posted By thinwater
Re: When neighboring boat disagrees

First, every Admiralty ruling I have ever read says that the first person pretty much has the right to anchor anyway they want, using as much scope as they want, and two anchors, if they want. Until...
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