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Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 04-03-2018, 16:19
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Slightly off topic now. But we should actually have an opinion on what is a good versus a bad charitable donation - especially when the government subsidies them (technically not in this case since...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 01-03-2018, 10:20
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Thanks for posting that article.

Warning: I'm going to "hate" on them, so don't read further if that bothers you.

I, for one, though don't buy their story that it was all a...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 28-02-2018, 11:46
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

- that's a big assumption.

I should have clarified that I meant non-race US boats.

Maybe some insurances will go the route of requiring keel inspections. That's fine, you can always choose...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 28-02-2018, 11:06
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Mandatory keel inspections doesn't have the slightest chance of become law in the US - and that's a good thing.

Owners need to be responsible for their own boat/safety. Not to mention that the...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 27-02-2018, 11:26
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Thanks. Agreed on speculation. Would be nice for them to give an update for their sponsors.
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 25-02-2018, 18:34
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Can you give anymore details of what Nikki and Tanner are doing and what caused the delay?
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 24-02-2018, 07:32
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Are you sure? It would be strange if they started giving out refunds but still keep the campaign open on the website. I just checked and it appears people are still donating.

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Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 23-02-2018, 13:28
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Yes if you donated, you should demand gofundme to pay you back, they "guarantee" the donations.

Agreed on the fuel tank. Sadly there was likely quite a bit in there. It also doesn't take much to...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 23-02-2018, 13:09
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Looks like it's getting torn up in a hurry. Soon there won't be much left and the sandbank will swallow the rest...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 23-02-2018, 07:43
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Posted By surf_sail
Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

So can anyone confirm it's been removed? No need for us to bash them if they already took care of it.
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 14:02
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

I agree Ann. They had the needed money weeks ago. The wreck should be gone by now. Unfortunately, I don't have much hope for them to take care of their obligations.

Regarding taxes, these are...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 13:15
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

So back to the thread. Any activity on getting this boat out of the channel?
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 11:19
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Sorry I still don't see the point. If you know how to use google you're ok? If you know how to find the right book, you're ok?

I just don't see why one would even bring up the problems with google...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 10:56
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Yes. Books 1, Web 0.

https://books.google.com/
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 10:48
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

You didn't say one should use a book instead of the google thing? Ok.
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 08:29
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

True. But all of the facts were discussed on here.
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 08:14
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Views: 106,365
Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Treble, thanks for sticking to the subject and providing the facts. I love how most on here are complaining that the two didn't know their stuff, but will gladly comment without getting the facts...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 04:31
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Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

My guess too. Changing the gofundme description is easy though. Let's see if they follow through....
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 22-02-2018, 02:37
Replies: 842
Views: 106,365
Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

What?

You can't learn about keel bolts from google, only from books? In Gutenberg's days would you have complained about reading from printed books versus handwritten scrolls?

Little FYI, ...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 21-02-2018, 20:39
Replies: 842
Views: 106,365
Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Encouraging news: they have changed the GoFundMe again to say the first thing they'll do is salvage the boat.

Any update from the locals on if there has been any activity in that regard?
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Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 20-02-2018, 13:23
Replies: 842
Views: 106,365
Posted By surf_sail
Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Actually this is incorrect. They likely have already withdrawn the money. They can take out the money as soon as its donated without affecting the campaign, thereafter they can get daily deposits...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 20-02-2018, 12:49
Replies: 842
Views: 106,365
Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Is there any indication that GoFundMe is actually doing an investigation beyond the automated email they send after submitting a complaint?

Totally agree walking away won't turn out well for them.
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 20-02-2018, 12:25
Replies: 842
Views: 106,365
Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

I like your optimism, but I doubt it. Shopping for quotes should take all of 1 day. After all there is going to be a limited number of possible salvage crews within the area. If that were the...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 20-02-2018, 12:20
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Views: 106,365
Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

I'll tell you what though. With their new found notoriety they can forget about cruising. Everyone will know who they are and that they walked away from this. Fame is a double edged sword. If no...
Forum: Seamanship & Boat Handling 20-02-2018, 12:18
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Views: 106,365
Posted By surf_sail
Re: Another Keel Lost; Another Capsize

Also another person that could have paid back their student loans but didn't want to. Surely with the money they put into the boat they could have found the 7k...
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